Some 99S & silencer/mod questions...

[Hellequin]

So, I've finally decided to get on the HW99S bandwagon and see what all the fuss is about. I've still not decided on calibre; I usually prefer .177 for general purpose & bunny shooting but I do like a .22 for short range ferals & rats, plus I hear that the 99S is particularly sweet in the 'proper blokes' calibre when fettled...

So, bearing in mind that for a while at least this little rifle will be a 'do all' for me, would the 99S experts recommend it in .177 or .22? I suppose I could always buy one of each at some point, but I'd prefer summat like a 97k in .177 if I'm honest.



On to the next part. Eventually I'd like to pimp it up a bit with a decent tune, possibly a shortened barrel and a nice 'slimtech' style blued silencer. I had one of these on a HW95 and they really suit the HW break-barrels but I can't seem to find one anywhere online. I have seen threads for 'Konceptus' but can't find the website & it seems he may have ceased trading.

Does anyone do these slimline blued steel or alloy silencers now? If so, a link would be much appreciated!

[angrybear]

There was a thread on here a month or two back with pic's of a Gorgeous mod someone had made.
bit of a search/trawl & you should find it.

[les allam]

I am no expert on the 99s , but my .22 cal version shoots rea nice with the standard set up. I have a very nice barrel weight in blued steel on my gun and it as tamed the hold sensitivity for me.
Dm80 on this forum does some very nice mods and barrel weight's.
The.22 guns are generally less twitchy at the 11+Ft/lbs.
Atb
Les..

[Hellequin]

Thanks gents, I've just found that our very own Mr Tinbum does barrel sleeves for these, so I could be tempted by one of those!

I think I'm going to go for .22 first as it sounds like they don't need much at all doing to them in that calibre, maybe just a strip/clean/relube. My aim for this one is a handy short-range plinker/ratter anyway so the bigger calibre will suit it well, I think.

[TonyL]

It will fulfill the short range plinker / ratter role with ability and finesse to spare and can often put to shame larger, more expensive rifles at longer range duties. All in a handy, lightweight package. And not much more money (if any, in certain cases) than many much more budget built guns.

[Telephonepete]

Do not mess around with perfection by thinking of chopping the 99 barrel. Put a tinbum barrel sleeve on that will do nothing but good. i have had many 99s most in the best calibre for me which is .177. I have today received one of Nicks barrel sleeves i must be his best customer for them i cant remember how many i have had. Forget a moderator the gun really does not need one. If you are a member of the other forum if you pm me from there i can pm you a pic of my two one with a pic of mine wearing a tinbum sleeve and the other with a Shauny barrel weight. The best little gun you can buy.

[TonyL]

They're nice in either calibre, although, as you mention, a little "softer" in .22 (depending on tune). The firing cycle, even out of the box, is very nice even in tiddly form. If going for a .177, they always seem nicer if you don't run it above about 10.5.

Pretty sure you'd be happy with either.....flip a coin and enjoy.

As regards a silencer, I'm not sure if Steve from V-Mach can supply? Maybe contact him directly and ask?

Alternatively, if sound suppression is not sought after, maybe Jonny Neate could do you a lovely little muzzle weight / sleeve? He turns out some lovely stuff.

[Telephonepete]

So, I've finally decided to get on the HW99S bandwagon and see what all the fuss is about. I've still not decided on calibre; I usually prefer .177 for general purpose & bunny shooting but I do like a .22 for short range ferals & rats, plus I hear that the 99S is particularly sweet in the 'proper blokes' calibre when fettled...

So, bearing in mind that for a while at least this little rifle will be a 'do all' for me, would the 99S experts recommend it in .177 or .22? I suppose I could always buy one of each at some point, but I'd prefer summat like a 97k in .177 if I'm honest.



On to the next part. Eventually I'd like to pimp it up a bit with a decent tune, possibly a shortened barrel and a nice 'slimtech' style blued silencer. I had one of these on a HW95 and they really suit the HW break-barrels but I can't seem to find one anywhere online. I have seen threads for 'Konceptus' but can't find the website & it seems he may have ceased trading.

Does anyone do these slimline blued steel or alloy silencers now? If so, a link would be much appreciated!

I have two 99s both in .177 running at 10.5 and very smooth. Last night at the club there were only three sitting at tables. As we do we had a shoot off at the end of the evening. I was shooting my 97 v glide and they were shooting .177 99s. home tuned. I shot well enough but they both beat me. as to my 99s, nothing would persuade me to shorten the barrels.

[Hellequin]

I have two 99s both in .177 running at 10.5 and very smooth. Last night at the club there were only three sitting at tables. As we do we had a shoot off at the end of the evening. I was shooting my 97 v glide and they were shooting .177 99s. home tuned. I shot well enough but they both beat me. as to my 99s, nothing would persuade me to shorten the barrels.

That's fair enough Pete. I saw your (and others) previous comments regarding shortening the barrel on a 99 but I really wanted a proper carbine in .22 and, so far, it's looking good with nothing to make me regret it.

As said earlier I did a very short zero session yesterday using my favourite 'test' pellet of Superdomes. My garden only gives me 22yds but it grouped well and that zero will suit what I want it for, as it should give me a decent PBR 'aim on' of around 10-25yds. I've followed it up with a chrono session today. Nothing lengthy and all pellets un-weighed straight from the tin. Over ten shot strings with Superdome & Falcon Accuracy Plus it gave:

Superdome - High FPS 561.1, Low FPS 557.7, Average 559.8. This gives an energy of 10.09 ft.lb based on Superdome claimed weight of 14.5gr.

Falcon AP - High FPS 556.7, Low FPS 544.9, Average 551.38. This gives an energy of 9.05 ft.lb based on Falcon claimed weight of 13.4gr.

Obviously this short test wasn't scientific but it gives me an idea what the absolutely standard from factory (aside from shortened barrel) rifle is doing. It's clear the Falcon were down on power and consistency but to be honest I'm quite happy with the way it shoots with the Superdome; 10ft.lb and 4.5fps spread from a standard internally, brand new rifle and with a stubby 8.5" barrel is pretty good.

Next step will be to strip the internals just to de-grease, check for any poorly finished parts & smooth/polish if required then reassemble with decent lube and the Tinbum guide & TH. I'm hoping for around 10.5ft.lb and for the shot-to-shot consistency to get even better once run in, and will also do some more pellet and range testing so I know my drop out to 30yds and (for interest) how it groups further out. I've no need for more power on this rifle as it's a short range gun for plinking and some rats/ferals; consistency and smoothness is more important for me.

That should keep me occupied for a bit and then I'll be looking for one in .177 calibre, which I'll keep standard length and just fit a muzzle weight.

You could say I'm a convert; I was always a bit of a 'top of range' snob with spring powered rifles like the TX, HW97K, 77K, 80K & 95K and I still love all of those, but you really don't need to spend that much to have a sweet shooting rifle. Weihrauch have really nailed it with the 99S but then, you all knew that anyway...

All the best