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    .177 HW30S and HW99S for MPL shooting.

    I have been shooting an HW30S in the MPL series and it is a lovely smooth and accurate little rifle, but I have found it a bit too small to fit me comfortably so I have been considering fitting the action into a bigger stock.

    Old age has given me some problems with my back and shoulders and so crouching over a smaller sized rifle probably gives me more discomfort that it would have done a few years ago when I was younger and fitter. Without these problems I would stick with the HW30S "out of the box" as it is a superb little rifle that "does the job" perfectly!

    As I was considering the amount of work and the costs involved in making a custom stock (or grafting it into an existing bigger stock) I saw an HW99S and thought I would give this a try instead as it could be a "ready made" fix that could save me a lot of work - and like the HW30S it was still a budget priced rifle that would make a good affordable choice.

    The "S" part of the HW99S rifle type means that it shares the same superb "Record" trigger as the HW30s and being just a bit bigger it did feel a bit more comfortable for me to hold too - so I bought it!

    I tested the '99S at the club last night and was really impressed with its accuracy over the 6 yard MPL distance and it was a little more comfortable for me to hold as well.

    The rifle has more power than it needs for 6 yard paper punching so I am looking at reducing the power down to a similar level to the HW30S as that was more than good enough to punch nice sharp clean holes in the targets and the reduced power should also make it easier to cock too!

    It is always tempting just to pull the SSP out of the cupboard and use that instead (and I sometimes have done in the past!), but I do enjoy the challenge of shooting with a simple recoiling springer as it is more in keeping with the original ethos of the MPL - keeping things simple and inexpensive to encourage more shooters to take part without having to worry about being "out-gunned" by those with better kit.

    Does anyone else have any experience with target shooting with either of these recoiling springers that they would like to share?
    Last edited by zooma; 22-12-2018 at 01:27 PM.
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    The only slight problem (as far as target shooting goes) is that I found my HW99S came with a "budget" front sight tunnel that would be more than adequate for shooting with open sights (or with a scope of course!) but it was not able to take any alternative front sight elements.

    I borrowed a regular HW front sight tunnel off of an old HW35 that I have and fitted that instead.

    Once this tunnel had been fitted I was able to fit a 3.8 plastic element as I have found this to be the perfect size for shooting target ( or bell target) at 6 yards.

    I do not have any spare dioptre sights so I borrowed one from my Walther match rifle (I was in a hurry!) and it fitted OK but does not really have a strong enough clamping action for use on a springer - but it did get me shooting with my new HW99S quite quickly.

    So I have started shooting with my HW99S with front and rear sights borrowed from other rifles - and it works well but I would like to treat it to its own set of sights that I can leave on the rifle permanently.
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    Hi Bob,

    As you know i joined the mpl this year, i started with an 80, then got a 30(too small) & now have the 99, which suits me just fine, i have since got one in 22 as well.
    I fitted the williams peep sight i got off you & also changed the front sight to an HW one that i can change the elements on & have been experimenting with different one's, but not being from a target shooting back ground i know little about them.
    My 99 in 177 was doing 12ftlb out of the box, i ended up cutting 2 coils off the spring, taking it down to 9ftlb, then just shot it for a few weeks, it has probably shot 3000 pellets now, so Wednesday i decided to chrono it again & it had crept back up to 10 with r10 pellets, so another half a coil & its back down to 9, so another half a coil, will see it about right i think.
    Interestingly the 22 99 struggled to make 9.5 until it had been run in so to speak but is now doing just under 11 which is fine for me.

    Rob

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    Took another half a coil off, & the rifle is now down to 7.6ftlb which seems to suit it, shot cycle feels faster ?

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    Love my little 30s in .22.
    I fitted a Bisley adjustable pad to mine to improve the reach, very pleased with it.
    Accurate out to stupid distances with Hobbys, of all pellets.

    Last edited by Riffler; 21-12-2018 at 09:54 PM.

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    The HW30S makes an excellent paper puncher with the simplest of modifications.
    Here's a link to a piece I originally wrote for publication that didn't make the grade - hope it helps and encourages.

    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/weih...er-t27568.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riffler View Post
    Love my little 30s in .22.
    I fitted a Bisley adjustable pad to mine to improve the reach, very pleased with it.
    Accurate out to stupid distances with Hobbys, of all pellets.

    Nice barrel sleeve - who supplies these?
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    [QUOTE=Riffler;7615911]Love my little 30s in .22.
    I fitted a Bisley adjustable pad to mine to improve the reach, very pleased with it.
    Accurate out to stupid distances with Hobbys, of all pellets.

    Very nice, though I have not copied the photo over to save space on the post.

    Can I ask which mounts you have on this Airmax/30s combination please. When I tried to fit a Hawke Vantage 32mm ao scope with Sportsmatch lows to my 30s's I get the ao collar fouling the barrel so I have to fit mediums.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robthedog View Post
    Took another half a coil off, & the rifle is now down to 7.6ftlb which seems to suit it, shot cycle feels faster ?
    That sounds interesting Rob.

    If you can keep the accuracy with the lower power it would surely be a good improvement for 6 yard paper punching as it would making cocking the rifle even easier and should make the trigger weight lower too!

    ..and you have achieved it just by chopping some coils off of the mainspring until it gives you the power you are looking for.

    Good cheap "old school" home tuning that works!

    Let me know how you get on after you have used it this way as i could be interested in chopping the spring on mine too!


    Merry Christmas!

    Bob.
    Last edited by zooma; 22-12-2018 at 01:43 PM.
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