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    Disappointed with New BSA Ultra XL

    What have I done

    Sold my Single shot Ultra and bought a brand spanking new Ultra XL.

    The single shot went as I wanted a multi shot rifle. That thing was accurate as hell and so well made.

    The XL is very NOT.

    Plastic trigger blade that you have to keep pulling....and pulling.....and pulling. Miles of creep but I might be able to sort that?

    Plastic (although silent) safety catch.

    Glue reside on butt pad which has stained it and I had to scrape the dried excess off with my nail. It might be lacquer rather than glue? Not sure.

    The brass ring at the filler cap join is corroded/discoloured with black marks

    The magazine itself seems OK and loading is easy but I've seen you tube clips where they just slip in and are pulled home by the magnet. Not mine, have to push it home firmly and tricky to line up.

    The thread on the filler probe was poor.

    Took a fair amount of cleaning the barrel to get it to group with JSBs which, in fairness, it did in the end but the single poorly photocopied sheet of paper that is supposed to be the manual said they are accuracy tested at the factory! I guess so if you are aiming at bin lids at 5 yards.

    Worst of all though, It came with 110 bar fill. I topped it up with my Hills pump to 230 bar. Fired off a few magazines and down to 120 bar (according to the wonkily tilted filler gauge - come on guys, at least make it level) and it wont fill. Air leaks out of the probe whilst it's pushed home.

    I've tried cocking the gun, wiggling the probe, my old probe, pushing the probe in and out etc etc. Not filling.

    I've e-mailed the company I bought it off and awaiting a reply tomorrow hopefully.

    Not impressed. BSA, in my opinion, on this rifle (Which don't forget retails around 450-500) have gone cheap and it shows.
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    Reject it and send it back for a refund.

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    It's a shame when you've sold a good gun to get it. I'd send it back. I've had a ultra Mmc and old scorpion both single shot for years and been trouble free.

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    Sorry about this, price is one thing, but sadly this kind of thing happens on guns at twice the price and it's never a good excuse.

    I'd definitely reject it as not fit for purpose, you don't have to accept a faulty gun, which this one clearly is. Perhaps then look for a second hand one a little older which may be in better nick or get something further up the range second hand at the same price?

    Either way, it's soul destroying when you are looking forward to something like this and it goes nipples skywards.

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    Send it back you did not agree to buy a faulty product your only asking for what you should of received in first place

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    The shop rang me. Apologised and agreed to do a swap for another which they will check over before sending out. Fingers crossed the first was just a Friday afternoon gun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by phil384 View Post
    What have I done

    Sold my Single shot Ultra and bought a brand spanking new Ultra XL.

    The single shot went as I wanted a multi shot rifle. That thing was accurate as hell and so well made.

    The XL is very NOT.

    Plastic trigger blade that you have to keep pulling....and pulling.....and pulling. Miles of creep but I might be able to sort that?

    Plastic (although silent) safety catch.

    Glue reside on butt pad which has stained it and I had to scrape the dried excess off with my nail. It might be lacquer rather than glue? Not sure.

    The brass ring at the filler cap join is corroded/discoloured with black marks

    The magazine itself seems OK and loading is easy but I've seen you tube clips where they just slip in and are pulled home by the magnet. Not mine, have to push it home firmly and tricky to line up.

    The thread on the filler probe was poor.

    Took a fair amount of cleaning the barrel to get it to group with JSBs which, in fairness, it did in the end but the single poorly photocopied sheet of paper that is supposed to be the manual said they are accuracy tested at the factory! I guess so if you are aiming at bin lids at 5 yards.

    Worst of all though, It came with 110 bar fill. I topped it up with my Hills pump to 230 bar. Fired off a few magazines and down to 120 bar (according to the wonkily tilted filler gauge - come on guys, at least make it level) and it wont fill. Air leaks out of the probe whilst it's pushed home.

    I've tried cocking the gun, wiggling the probe, my old probe, pushing the probe in and out etc etc. Not filling.

    I've e-mailed the company I bought it off and awaiting a reply tomorrow hopefully.

    Not impressed. BSA, in my opinion, on this rifle (Which don't forget retails around 450-500) have gone cheap and it shows.
    Well they clearly look shit
    Why didn't you just buy a Scorpian or Ultra SE Multishot ?
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    Errr because I thought it would be good?
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    Update

    I'll name the shop as they have been decent with me - Sportsguns of Cardigan. I spoke to them again today as I am waiting for them to collect the faulty rifle and deliver the new one but my faith has been dented and instead I have bought a "proper" multi shot Ultra SE on here.

    Sportsguns have agreed to refund me once the rifle has been collected. Can't say fairer than that.

    Sometimes things go wrong and it's not the sellers fault. It's how they sort things out that matters and I can't fault them. Next time I'm after a rifle I'll be looking at their website and if the price is right, buying from them.

    So:

    BSA Ultra XL - IMHO not so good.
    Sportsguns of Cardigan - Good.
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    Thumbs up

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    Quote Originally Posted by phil384 View Post
    Update

    I'll name the shop as they have been decent with me - Sportsguns of Cardigan. I spoke to them again today as I am waiting for them to collect the faulty rifle and deliver the new one but my faith has been dented and instead I have bought a "proper" multi shot Ultra SE on here.

    Sportsguns have agreed to refund me once the rifle has been collected. Can't say fairer than that.

    Sometimes things go wrong and it's not the sellers fault. It's how they sort things out that matters and I can't fault them. Next time I'm after a rifle I'll be looking at their website and if the price is right, buying from them.

    So:

    BSA Ultra XL - IMHO not so good.
    Sportsguns of Cardigan - Good.
    It sounds like Sportsguns have been thoroughly decent and complied with all the trading standards you would expect, it's just a pity the rifle was a sub-standard product in the first place.
    I know you have lost confidence in this model (and potentially other modern BSA's), I also expect Sportsguns may now be a little less confident in the product.
    Good on them for sorting it out to your satisfaction, shame you wasted your time with a gun that sounds like it should never have got out of the factory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phil384 View Post
    Update

    I'll name the shop as they have been decent with me - Sportsguns of Cardigan. I spoke to them again today as I am waiting for them to collect the faulty rifle and deliver the new one but my faith has been dented and instead I have bought a "proper" multi shot Ultra SE on here.

    Sportsguns have agreed to refund me once the rifle has been collected. Can't say fairer than that.

    Sometimes things go wrong and it's not the sellers fault. It's how they sort things out that matters and I can't fault them. Next time I'm after a rifle I'll be looking at their website and if the price is right, buying from them.

    So:

    BSA Ultra XL - IMHO not so good.
    Sportsguns of Cardigan - Good.
    All credit to them, especially as they are collecting it
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartynB View Post
    All credit to them, especially as they are collecting it
    To comply with the VCR law they do a round robin of different areas throughout the country delivering rifles. It's just a matter of them stopping by mine to collect.
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