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    Webley Premier query

    Hello all and thanks for looking. Is this a factory seal please. A lot bluer in hand than photo.

    The sear looks worn so should it be dressed to sharp edge?


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    Quote Originally Posted by deejayuu View Post
    Hello all and thanks for looking. Is this a factory seal please. A lot bluer in hand than photo.

    The sear looks worn so should it be dressed to sharp edge?

    Hi Jules-----Got yourself a Webley pistol then? .The sears all go like that. When you think about it the curve of the piston has to sit in the curve. I not sure whether that sear is sintered or not, but generally, any grinding or filing of a sear is only a temporary fix.
    I'm not sure about the seal---I'm sure I have seen blueish ones though.

    Is the Premier a Mk1 (all Steel) or a Mk 2 (Steel and alloy)? The all steel ones are ok, but I am not a fan of the Mk2 2 as I've seen a couple with the sear pin in slightly the wrong place so the thing won't cock of function properly. Also, BlOODY SERRATED trigger pins going into alloy
    Even if you use a dry moly on the piston/ cylinder, Webleys always seem better with some thickish oil in them . I think the factory used straight 40 engine oil. I use chainsaw oil as I have some here.
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    Not mine Guy. Belongs to my one time boss. Battle weary so doing a light resto' for now. All steel with brown fleck grips. Got a replacement
    off e buy so need to get on with it. Thought you'd be on this rapid. Haven't forgotten your bits. See you soon. Jules

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    Yes, blue seals were used by the factory and this one looks 'old' and correct.

    Nice pistols.

    Kind regards,

    John

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    Yep I have a couple with identical seals, they have a kind of mottled finish that reminds me of old Bakelite

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    Thanks for the support as per. Not Viagra then

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    The seal is correct as people have said, mottled blue are the older ones, white the latter one. The sear is normally shaped like that due to the piston shape, the contact face is the one not shown in your photos, its the end face that engages with the piston and will probably have evidence of that contact. The sear and trigger are SINTERED or MONKEY!!! metal and on no account should be re ground or stoned, the material is actually powder; formed under extreme pressure, only a few microns are hard and once worn or removed the base material will crumble and fail very quickly, it's also brittle so, also, it's easy to break; with sears this wear can cause unexpected self discharge and with pistols cause massive hand damage if your hand is caught between the barrel and cylinder. If your sear has a polished face but sharp edges at the contact area it should be ok; if the contact area is rounded off in any way it's getting to or is already dangerous. Mk I and Prem II sears look similar but won't work in a Prem.

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    Thanks abellringer. It's the wear that concerned me. I get the shape/material bit.

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