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    Had a few over the years, Setra, Blue Streak, Silver Streak, a couple of Ace's, but the one that always put a smile on my face was the little Innova. I still have the Frenchi Innova which I bought from Mick French on here quite a few years back, cracking bit of wood on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by ken69 View Post
    Had a few over the years, Setra, Blue Streak, Silver Streak, a couple of Ace's, but the one that always put a smile on my face was the little Innova. I still have the Frenchi Innova which I bought from Mick French on here quite a few years back, cracking bit of wood on it
    I had an ex Mick French 1377 brought to me for repair by a member from Coventry, it was sold on here by the owner, Sunny76 ?, and later broken up and sold for parts on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T 20 View Post
    I had an ex Mick French 1377 brought to me for repair by a member from Coventry, it was sold on here by the owner, Sunny76 ?, and later broken up and sold for parts on here.
    I bought this one from Mick in 2009, it's in .177 calibre and happy to say it's still in one piece

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    An Airlogic Genesis?,a winner if awards are given for weight.

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    Only handled one briefly but the Sheridan Blue Streak does have a certain charm.

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    Of the ones I’ve actually owned, and including single-strokes, in descending order:

    Titan Mohawk
    PH Dragon, when it worked (bloody unreliable thing, mine)
    Sheridan C9
    Crosman 120
    Crosman 2200W
    Tie: stocked Crosman 1377 and Crosman 2200
    Crosman 760 (nearly forgot I’d had one!)
    Daisy 840

    What do you want to do with a pumper?

    FT, HFT, 10M match none of the above. Proper pest control, the top two, though the C9 isn’t bad and nor is the 120. Outdoor plinking and occasional pest at moderate ranges, any of the C9, 120, and 2200s. Youth training, the 1377, 760, or 840. Indoor target practice, including bell target, any apart from the Titan and PH, with the multi-pumps on 1-3 pumps.

    You are right that there are fewer pellet types available in .20”. But they are all good pellets, whereas 50-75% of available .177” and .22” pellets are mediocre to awful.

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    very good lads which was the one that gave 2 shots after pumping just 8 times setra?
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    Quote Originally Posted by millybot1 View Post
    very good lads which was the one that gave 2 shots after pumping just 8 times setra?
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    I think that was the Benjamin because to keep it within the legal limit the importers cropped the valve spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post
    I think that was the Benjamin because to keep it within the legal limit the importers cropped the valve spring.

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    Anyone remember the Whaley Crossman conversion ?

    Edit: Just read a few post below, Ped has one
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    I ll just throw this into the mix, but John Bowkett made a few stunning single and multiple pump rifles and pistols.....one I now own along with a Genesis (3 times the weight)and a Daystate Sportsman mk 2......but the one I regret was a Laiser 12 I was offered way back and I declined

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    Quote Originally Posted by AC all day View Post
    I ll just throw this into the mix, but John Bowkett made a few stunning single and multiple pump rifles and pistols.....one I now own along with a Genesis (3 times the weight)and a Daystate Sportsman mk 2......but the one I regret was a Laiser 12 I was offered way back and I declined
    Never heard of Laiser 12, who made that ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartynB View Post
    Never heard of Laiser 12, who made that ?

    Information supplied by JB. The Laiser 12 was made by a chap named John Brown. He bought a compound lever 12 ft/lbs single stroke from JB. John Brown made his version of that but it didnt work so he approached JB with another design asking for help and advice. The result was the Laiser 12 on which he paid JB a licence fee for each rifle sold. That was 6 in all before John Brown stopped due to ill health. One of his customers for the Laiser 12 was a certain Graham Bluck. Say no more

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartynB View Post
    Anyone remember the Whaley Crossman conversion ?
    Wasn't that the one the magazines admitted to cheating with when it came to the accuracy testing? I well remember reading about them and lusted after one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post
    Wasn't that the one the magazines admitted to cheating with when it came to the accuracy testing? I well remember reading about them and lusted after one.

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    If I remember correctly, it was multi pump multi shot ? But each shot was different velocity, and yes I was guilty of lusting after one as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post
    Wasn't that the one the magazines admitted to cheating with when it came to the accuracy testing? I well remember reading about them and lusted after one.

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    JB knew Adam Whaley and handled his personal Whaley Crosman at the shop in Hornsey. It dumped all the air with each shot and was fitted with a long .177" HW35E barrel. A bit different to the punters versions. There was also some dispute over one copying another with Marshall Crosmans, JB told me. Accuracy with those was not helped by the threaded holes for the rear sight screws going clean though into the rifling

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