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    Peep Sights.

    I recently bought a used HW30 and, as said on an earlier thread, I'm struggling using the open sights as my eyes aren't what they were.
    Williams Peep sights were mentioned and I.J. kindly brought his HW30 to the club yesterday for me to try. What a difference.
    Are these still available? I've looked everywhere and can't find any.
    My only other option is to buy a cheap SMK diopter sight but I have been advised against them.

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    i have the Williams one on my 99 great piece of kit, if you find 2 let me know & i will have a 2nd one

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    Weihrauch make a sight that fits on the scope rail of the HW77 that can be fitted right at the back of the rifle. If you glue a small diameter washer on the back sight notch you have a a great peep sight. You can also fit a cheaper Chinese version as I have on my HW 95. If you cannot source one send me a PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benelli B76 View Post
    Weihrauch make a sight that fits on the scope rail of the HW77 that can be fitted right at the back of the rifle.
    that's a great idea - I have a couple of HW77 rearsights..

    Should have thought of it myself really, much like the BSA buccaneer peepsight that just uses a different blade in the std BSA sight
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    Yep, excellent idea.

    I now foresee an upsurge in demand for used '77 sights!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benelli B76 View Post
    Weihrauch make a sight that fits on the scope rail of the HW77 that can be fitted right at the back of the rifle. If you glue a small diameter washer on the back sight notch you have a a great peep sight. You can also fit a cheaper Chinese version as I have on my HW 95. If you cannot source one send me a PM.

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    Good ideas there, is your 95 fitted with a mod, if so what is the front sight set up ?

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    I think J S Ramsbottoms were selling the Gamo apertures off cheap the last time I looked, Gary ?




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    Rob, the front sight is made using a Parker Hale silencer. The barrel band of a QB78 is a perfect fit on it to make a sight protector. I tighten the silencer on and mark the vertical position for the blade. Then drill and tap the silencer to fit a locking screw so everything stays put on the rifle, and the rifle is not changed in any way. Here is a pic taken before I shaped the front blade.
    I use little Belleville washers from BSA regulators to make aperture sights and glue them on. Here is a repaired Jackal sight before cleaning up.

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    I've used both the AA and SMK (or at least an unbranded Chinese version) diopters on my HW30.

    The AA developed an noticeable amount of wobble in the sliding parts quite quickly. A strip and lube with the thickest grease I could find dampened the movement down but I'd lost confidence in it by then.

    It was also necessary to drill and tap a small hole in it's underside to accept an allen bolt to locate in the arrestor holes - the sight would never grip the dovetails well enough to not work it's way backwards.

    The SMK style dioptre, by comparison, does what it says on the can with no problems.

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    If it's of any use to you, I have a really well built Diopter sight that I got off the bay that I can't really get on with, I've no idea what make it is but it's very well built with no horrid cheap plastic bits to break (like the SMK ones), if you're interested in it then let me know and we'll come to some arrangment

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    Which model sight (or model rifle had that particular one) below please?

    If anyone has one spare please let me know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Benelli B76 View Post
    Weihrauch make a sight that fits on the scope rail of the HW77 that can be fitted right at the back of the rifle. If you glue a small diameter washer on the back sight notch you have a a great peep sight. You can also fit a cheaper Chinese version as I have on my HW 95. If you cannot source one send me a PM.

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    These sights are for the Weihrauch HW77, but they are quite expensive, ranging from £66 to £76, unless someone knows of a cheaper supply. When I get them I tend to keep them as they can be fitted to some other rifle that have scope rails. I find the Chinese version of these sights more useful as the Weihrauch type need an open scope rail for them to fit. The Chinese design can be fitted to a "blind" scope rail that has closed ends.

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    gtfreight,

    The chappie on Bay Of Flea doesn't seem to list the Williams sight any more

    There are two (2) of the economy aperture sights commonly available new in the UK :

    One (1) is used by Air Arms (available from e.g. https://www.ant-supplies.uk/scopes-s...un-sights.html)



    The other is distributed by SMK :



    Of the two (2), the Air Arms type is less bad

    If you can get hold of a vintage Gamo aperture, they are not bad at all - very weighty in the hand, unlike the modern economy sights.

    Please look on Bay Of Flea for vintage aperture sights - the Anschutz 6xxxx series are very good, and I have them on a number of my rifles.

    Have fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtfreight View Post
    I recently bought a used HW30 and, as said on an earlier thread, I'm struggling using the open sights as my eyes aren't what they were.
    Williams Peep sights were mentioned and I.J. kindly brought his HW30 to the club yesterday for me to try. What a difference.
    Are these still available? I've looked everywhere and can't find any.
    My only other option is to buy a cheap SMK diopter sight but I have been advised against them.
    As there seem to be a couple of people interested in these Williams sights I checked the Bay of E for the people who supplied miy two. They appear to still be selling them and the price looks a tad lower than I paid. At the mo' they are $40 and $5 postage to UK.
    See: https://www./itm/Williams-Diopter-Re...-/231725122369
    hth
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    ps , still enjoying yours Pete? I find I'm using mine more than scopes recently and now use them out to 20yds before my eyes let me down on 1"targets. Today I'm going to use some bigger targets, probably 10m pistol jobbies, and ahve a bash at 50m!

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    Couldn't find that one but there is a seller playtime8384 in Bulgaria that supplies them and other types.

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