Lincoln Jeffries / BSA 1906 Bayonet Under Lever Rifle

[Gareth W-B]

Though like someone else has said, check to see if there is a serial number under the barrel (it will be hidden by the lever) Though I have only seen the later ones (Standards and CS models) have their serial numbers stamped in this place.

Cheers again. On the underside of the barrel down near the cocking lever pivot point is the number 49. Any significance?

[Josie & John]

Cheers again. On the underside of the barrel down near the cocking lever pivot point is the number 49. Any significance?

Hi Gareth,

If you remove the tap cover, the tap should be stamped with the same number.

I would have expected the rifle to have a Lincoln stamped stock if it were a Lincoln, so chances are a previous owner may have swapped parts around to make up a working gun. You just need to look on t'bay to see these old classics being parted out on a regular basis.

John

[Gareth W-B]

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Cheers John, but no cover on the left side of the tap to remove, as it has a knurled round wheel instead, and am loathed to remove this to check ...

With a BSA number on the trigger sction however, it is more than just the stock that would need exchanging to make it a pure representation of a marque, however, so the way I see it, I have five options:

1) Obtain and fit a BSA cylinder tube so that everything is all BSA;
2) Obtain and fit an LJ stamped trigger action and stock so that all is LJ;
3) Keep and leave as is, as has obviously been this way for the better part of the last 100 years;
4) Sell as is — ensuring the buyer knew it was an artisan hybrid gun, or ...
5) Break it for its component parts and sell off all as spares to renovators?

Thoughts please.

[gingernut]

Is this the one I sold you Gareth?
If so I know nothing!- per Manuel

[Gareth W-B]

Is this the one I sold you Gareth?
If so I know nothing!- per Manuel

Yes my friend, it is, and for the five years I’ve had it I’ve been very happy with it, but as it now transpires it isn’t all 100% LJ, I may move it on — or adjust it accordingly?

[gingernut]

I can swap it for an early model Light with two different serial numbers and a welded under lever.
Shoots well.

I don't specialise in selling dodgy guns.
But I do buy some.
I blame the poor lighting in Bisley Pavilion.
Hasn't happened at Kempton!

Was it really five years ago!

[Gareth W-B]

I can swap it for an early model Light with two different serial numbers and a welded under lever.
Shoots well.

I don't specialise in selling dodgy guns.
But I do buy some.
I blame the poor lighting in Bisley Pavilion.
Hasn't happened at Kempton!

Was it really five years ago!

Patric my good friend, I wouldn't dream of inconveniencing you, and I still hold you in the highest esteem, so there is no ill will here, whatsoever -- especially given that, yep, it was five years ago this coming Easter (lol), and the rifle -- bitsa or not -- has performed perfectly throughout. But as my others stack up as genuine, I feel I need to either buy bits and modify this lovely 1906/1907 rifle to original spec, or move it on as is (don't think I could bring myself to break it). Atvb and hope to see you at Binners next Bash.

[Gareth W-B]

With a BSA number on the trigger sction however, it is more than just the stock that would need exchanging to make it a pure representation of a marque, however, so the way I see it, I have five options:

1) Obtain and fit a BSA cylinder tube so that everything is all BSA;
2) Obtain and fit an LJ stamped trigger action and stock so that all is LJ;
3) Keep and leave as is, as has obviously been this way for the better part of the last 100 years;
4) Sell as is — ensuring the buyer knew it was an artisan hybrid gun, or ...
5) Break it for its component parts and sell off all as spares to renovators?

If I elected to go for option 4) as above, what sort of price should I expect (will get some photos up to help with value via a hosting site just as soon as I set up an account with one ).

[Gareth W-B]

If I elected to go for option 4) as above, what sort of price should I expect (will get some photos up to help with value via a hosting site just as soon as I set up an account with one ).

Following a couple of p-ms from a couple of folk 'in the know' (thank you Gents), I have now elected to go for my option four as above, and so said 1906/1907 .177 LIncoln Jeffries/BSA air rifle is now listed for sale in the BBS sales section, with photos at the recommended price of £225.

[JB101]

If it’s of any use I have serial Number 14925 which is all marked up as BSA air rifle with lincoln Jeffries on the underlever .

Regards
James

[Gareth W-B]

If it’s of any use I have serial Number 14925 which is all marked up as BSA air rifle with lincoln Jeffries on the underlever .

Regards
James

Wow! Thanks James. That reinforces completely the mix-n-match BSA/Lincoln Jeffries assembly techniques surrounding the scenario of when some bits became scarce, argument, that so many noted luminaries have proffered over the years. Cheers matey.

[Josie & John]

If it’s of any use I have serial Number 14925 which is all marked up as BSA air rifle with lincoln Jeffries on the underlever .

Regards
James

Hi James,

The markings on your rifle are period correct. The LJ reference on the underlever should refer to a patent and not that the rifle is a Lincoln. BSA originally marked the cylinder with details of LJ's patent, then moved the reference to the less prominent position under the underlever. Finally, when they acquired the rights to the patent, the reference to LJ was omitted completely and replaced by BSA patents.

Kind regards,

John