Springer repeater or single shot? Military style, Umarex Colt M4? Gamo?

[felix gunner]

Although the reviews seem good I did fine the following posted from some users in another topic (see below).

How are those who bought one getting on with it and is it holding up OK?

And has anyone stripped one?

Before...a tin of Hobbies ...within a month, the plastic "Lower Receiver" part of the gun, incorporating the Mag Well, Trigger/Guard, Pistol Grip and Shoulder Stock worked itself loose from the mostly metal "Upper Receiver", which includes the spring, barrel and other associated gubbins. The last shot I fired with that gun was accompanied by a disturbing "CRACK!" from within the plastic component and the trigger jammed... the plastic part of the gun is fixed to the metal part by a single machine screw which passes through a moulded sleeve. This sleeve had fractured/split and obstructed the trigger mechanism, rendering the gun unusable.


...sent me a replacement...less than six weeks and less than 350 Hobbies down the barrel, The plastic is coming loose.....AGAIN!...

And another user:

I bought one earlier this year, its crap. I've had the Same problem with the plastic bit breaking. Also it was only doing 7/8 ftlbs after I'd removed the oil from it - it seemed like it had been dipped in a bucket of oil and it was dripping from the spring.

I thought it would have been better quality( I've got a couple of umarex walthers and they are great) than it actually is but its a complete ****

[Josie & John]

Although the reviews seem good I did fine the following posted from some users in another topic (see below).

How are those who bought one getting on with it and is it holding up OK?

And has anyone stripped one?

Before...a tin of Hobbies ...within a month, the plastic "Lower Receiver" part of the gun, incorporating the Mag Well, Trigger/Guard, Pistol Grip and Shoulder Stock worked itself loose from the mostly metal "Upper Receiver", which includes the spring, barrel and other associated gubbins. The last shot I fired with that gun was accompanied by a disturbing "CRACK!" from within the plastic component and the trigger jammed... the plastic part of the gun is fixed to the metal part by a single machine screw which passes through a moulded sleeve. This sleeve had fractured/split and obstructed the trigger mechanism, rendering the gun unusable.


...sent me a replacement...less than six weeks and less than 350 Hobbies down the barrel, The plastic is coming loose.....AGAIN!...

And another user:

I bought one earlier this year, its crap. I've had the Same problem with the plastic bit breaking. Also it was only doing 7/8 ftlbs after I'd removed the oil from it - it seemed like it had been dipped in a bucket of oil and it was dripping from the spring.

I thought it would have been better quality( I've got a couple of umarex walthers and they are great) than it actually is but its a complete ****

Mine is shooting fine after several months and several tins of pellet Max.

I'd be interested in where the single screw and sleeve you mention are located, just so I can keep an eye on them and maybe add some loctite?

Kind regards,

John

[felix gunner]

Mine is shooting fine after several months and several tins of pellet Max.

I'd be interested in where the single screw and sleeve you mention are located, just so I can keep an eye on them and maybe add some loctite?

Kind regards,

John

My thoughts too John - wonder if anyone has stripped one down? Guessing once all the plastic is removed it’s very naked and obvious. I did look at the SMK Milbro £100 jobbie but much cheaper built and too long. Advantage that it’s my preferred.22 but seems to be a bit recoiless.

[Josie & John]

My thoughts too John - wonder if anyone has stripped one down? Guessing once all the plastic is removed it’s very naked and obvious. I did look at the SMK Milbro £100 jobbie but much cheaper built and too long. Advantage that it’s my preferred.22 but seems to be a bit recoiless.

I had a play with a Milbro last year and when compared to the Umarex, it becomes apparent the Milbro is the cheaper option. However, it does work and looks better with a suitable optic than the standard sights and imitation carrying handle it comes with. Trigger is not very good and agree it is very long.

John

[felix gunner]

This one?

https://www.gunmart.net/gun-reviews/...milbro-syn-m16

Looked a bit shonky and clunky on the YT videos (in 'breaking' and returning barrel).

I'm guessing though that these are really the only two current break barrel springer mil style choices out there?

[Josie & John]

This one?

https://www.gunmart.net/gun-reviews/...milbro-syn-m16

Looked a bit shonky and clunky on the YT videos (in 'breaking' and returning barrel).

I'm guessing though that these are really the only two current break barrel springer mil style choices out there?

That's the Milbro Max. There's always the Nitro Piston Crosman MTR77 NP M16A2 replica, which is also very realistic. I kept mine after I tested it and like it a lot.

John

[Michael Lewis]

Mine is shooting fine after several months and several tins of pellet Max.

I'd be interested in where the single screw and sleeve you mention are located, just so I can keep an eye on them and maybe add some loctite?

Kind regards,

John

Remove the pistol grip - screw in bottom of grip, then you will see the large screw that connects plastic bit to the metal bits of the gun.

[Josie & John]

Remove the pistol grip - screw in bottom of grip, then you will see the large screw that connects plastic bit to the metal bits of the gun.

Thank you Michael - much appreciated.

Kind regards,

John

[Josie & John]

Thanks again Michael and to Max for highlighting this potential issue with the M4.

My screw was loose and it seems as though only a few threads engage, so a dab of loctite on the thread should keep the screw from undoing itself.

A very useful heads up.

John

[felix gunner]

John, not got any pics have you - be interested to see it partially stripped/naked?

So do you think the quotes I posted are non-founded as long as this is checked?

I'd like one but a .22 would be better, I wonder if it's possible...

[Josie & John]

John, not got any pics have you - be interested to see it partially stripped/naked?

So do you think the quotes I posted are non-founded as long as this is checked?

I'd like one but a .22 would be better, I wonder if it's possible...

Hi Max,

I didn't take any pics when I undid the screws but it was a simple task. Only time will tell if the potential problem is unfounded but once the loctite has dried, I'm sure it will be fine.

John

[gingernut]

Mine was loose!
It isnt now.

No signs of plastic cracking.

[felix gunner]

Hi Max,

I didn't take any pics when I undid the screws but it was a simple task. Only time will tell if the potential problem is unfounded but once the loctite has dried, I'm sure it will be fine.

John

Thanks John, just need to find someone selling one now.

[gingernut]

Thanks again Michael and to Max for highlighting this potential issue with the M4.

My screw was loose and it seems as though only a few threads engage, so a dab of loctite on the thread should keep the screw from undoing itself.

A very useful heads up.

John

Better check mine too!
Thanks M & M