Webley Mk3 issues

[jirushi]

Does someone know if a second type trigger works in my later end block? (as in, will the pins match up, and the sear work)
And if a second type trigger fits in the early stock with grip lines that I have?

I have found a second type trigger (with the profile).
Just making sure that I don't need to find other parts to make it all work.
I should probably simply try to find an entire early Mk3 haha...

I think this great photo of forum member @johnbaz shows the three types of triggers? Not sure. I know the first type is double pull and has a really nice curve. That the second one has a profile at the rear of the blade. And that the third one is this dull straight thick piece of sintered steel, more set back in the trigger guard.

[hwtyger]

Is yr tap aligned properly? If its not you'll loose power too.
Dont worry about pellets. 5.6 barrel dont need 5.6 pellets.
My Tempest with 5.6 barrel shoots best with FTT 5.53 and my mk3 shoots best with JSB iirc

[jirushi]

Is yr tap aligned properly? If its not you'll loose power too.
Dont worry about pellets. 5.6 barrel dont need 5.6 pellets.
My Tempest with 5.6 barrel shoots best with FTT 5.53 and my mk3 shoots best with JSB iirc

Thank you Yana. I haven't inspected the pellets yet after firing. Will follow Andrew's advice to shoot into a bucket of water and check the pellets.
But when I open the tap, the hole is perfectly centered. Not sure if this means a lot though.

Any ideas about the different types of triggers gents?
Are the middle two ones in John's photo indeed second type triggers?
Then I probably need a different trigger block.

[jirushi]

Ps. I need to send forum member Josie & John a message with the trigger/trigger block compatibility question.
This is where I read about the three trigger types:
http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....Trigger-weight

Josie & John writes:
"Hi,

You can adjust it. There were three types of trigger on the Mk III. The first was the so called double pull with adjustment screw located on the trigger blade. The second and third had a locking screw on the side of the trigger block, whilst the adjusting screw was located on top of the block. The differences between the 2nd and 3rd types is the 2nd has a curly trigger profile, whilst the 3rd type has a shorter trigger blade, which sits slightly further back. The 2nd type had the best and 'crispiest' pull, whilst the 3rd type probably had the heaviest pull. Ironically the Supertargets were fitted with the 3rd type, which in my experience was the worst trigger on any of the Mk III rifles!

As a rough guide, the 1st type can be seen on rifles serial numbered to 6000. The 2nd type from SN 6001 until the A prefix was introduced in 1966 and the 3rd type on letter prefixed rifles.

John"

[jirushi]

The photo of johnbaz is indeed, from top to bottom:

1st type trigger
2nd type (used to have a fluted stock, but that was broken and replaced with a later type stock)
2nd type
3rd type

Will fit a 2nd type trigger and trigger block to my Mk3. Lots of things to try/discover

[jirushi]

An update:



Still horrible to shoot though!
The curse of the Mk3...
I will send the internals off to Paul Short.
That will be my last attempt.
I do like the looks of this gun though.
Let's hope it turns out well.
It's doing 8 ft/lbs now, with a shortened spring (-2 coils).
Still heavy to cock, harsh to shoot, and: twaaaaannggg. And that's with a new spring???
I can only laugh
Should never have tried all this.
But who knows Paul will get it right.
Fingers crossed.

[jirushi]

Ps. I just love this slim Weaver scope.
The optics are not that great, it's like someone has turned off the light after using my Airmax's, but it just looks and feels right.
Difficult to find though.