Although it was Robin that pushed me to take up rapid fire to improve my shooting it was Nige that found the LP10 for me, think there are five or six at our club that now shoot rapid and it is a blast. There is one discipline where you only have 3 seconds to come from 45 degrees and pull the trigger on a turning target and I watched quite a few youngsters doing it at Bisley and they were very good at it, and that was over a distance of 25m. The sec of the British Pistol Club told me the five shot pistol disciplines that were shot with multi shot "real" pistols at 25m are becoming more popular and shot with air. Whole now world!