right then ,some good news boys, loaded unique at the minimun ive read about on US sites 5.5 ,near enough ,big smiles

then 6gr 1 hole good ,1 sideways

6.5gr both sideways thru same hole

so 5.5 it is , all the info from the states is for much shorter barrels than my 12"......so would it be ok to try 5.0gr ,has anyone gone this low?