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    Happiness is a BSA Supersport.

    Okay then, my first experience of the Supersport was back in 1988. One that I bought for my ex-wife () in .177. A snappy, snarling, hold sensitive little beastie. Did the "old school lube tune" back then which, although it improved its manners slightly, the firing cycle left much to be desired. Ended up trading it in for another HW80.

    Fast forward a fair few years to about 2012 (I think). I bought an as-new Lightning for £110 including scope. Very, very consistent. Accurate, at least at the close ranges I tested it at, but very twangy. I was all set for treating it to a V-Mach kit, but then I thought the better of it and put the extra money to another HW95 instead.

    Fast forwards a few more years and I still had fond memories of my old Super Meteor Mercury and thought I ought to seek out an older, cheaper Beesa break barrel.

    Well, it got better than that as, about 14 months ago I was given an early Supersport. It has a very "distinctive" customised stock. Barrel and cylinder externals rough and a few gouges out of the stock. Broken foresight and the rear sight is missing. But it wears a 4x32 BSA scope that's very clear, so that's fine. The vertical adjustment turret is sort of hanging out, but seemingly all working okay.

    Chrono check revealed a very modest 9.5ft.lbs. Cocking effort was very low.

    Removing the stock revealed a broken cocking link. Looking on Chambers and part no longer available. And the BBS's super-hero Mick, T20, came to the rescue with a free "exchange" link.

    On stripping the gun, the cause of the low power output quickly became apparent, with the mainspring being broken in three places. And the barrel detent spring was broken too. Guess what? Detent spring no longer available. Then that lovely man Pete, looknohands, stepped up to the mark with the two springs. And also a Tinbum guide and top hat.

    Thank you Mick and Pete.

    It didn't have a wobbly breech, which was a huge bonus.

    Cylinder internal finish was very, very good and I must say I was pretty impressed with the quality and finsh of the piston. Everything polished up and refitted new components with a sparing lube.

    Firing manners very good, accuracy very good, smooth cocking. But she was a little warm so I whipped the spring out and it stood for a while.

    This January I shortened the spring (two coils off and ground flat and polished ends etc). Just a smidge under 12 with Hobbies, a little less with Jumbo RS and a foot pound or so less with all other pellets tested.

    And it's sweet. As in very, very sweet. I posted on my original thread about how accurate it is. It positively loves the Hobbies. At ten yards it'll print a hole with five shots barely larger than a single pellet hole shooting sat. But it's the effortless way it achieves this that really impresses.

    This afternoon I had a very pleasurable plink in the garden at about 14 yards. Just wanting to tweak the zero a little more before I try it out at longer range at The Boinger Bash.

    Now, although I say so myself, I used to be okay at standers. These days I'm hopeless. So I thought I'd get a little practice in. After the first few shots I bottled it and leant on the wall with my shoulder. Nice, loose hold. Result? Five shot groups easily smaller than a 5p piece. I then tried totally free standing and the groups only increased a tad. Absolutely lovely.

    I think one of the reasons why I found it so easy was the trigger. That nice and crisp single stage affair seems to work in harmony with your reflexes. Even when virtually "snap shooting" where you don't hesitate.....once the aim point is on, "fire" and she's away. Sometimes when shooting sitting I find myself checking, double-checking and taking far too long. But this quicker style certainly worked today and the little Supersport loved it.

    It almost feels like the quick feeling shot cycle is also contributing to this ease of achievable accuracy, a "snapping glass" sensation and the shot's off.

    All this in a freebie, cosmetically challenged package. I am absolutely loving this little rifle. Unassuming, purposeful looks, lightweight and feeling like a "proper sporting rifle". Don't get me wrong, if I were to only have one rifle it would be a HW. But I'm developing a strong bond with this rifle. And it is a definite keeper.


    Now, amongst one or two others that I want one day, I really feel like I want another of these. Have I just got lucky with this one? Is there actually much difference between pure Brum ones and Gamo ones? I wouldn't be going out and buying a new one (I still feel that there's not enough price difference to sway me from a HW99 or 95 if buying new), but I'd certainly be up for another of these or a Lightning if one were to become available cheaply.

    Cheers for looking in, peeps.
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    With you on this one Tony. Always had a soft spot for the Supersport, and as you say they can vary in their shooting manners, even when some work is done.
    I have an early Lightning here, which was the subject of an AGW article - cost £70, and all finished just over £100, shots really nicely, and so compact and fast handling.
    They are a nice fuss free springer, if you get a decent one hold on to it.

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    Great read and I’m glad you got it all sorted mate. Enjoy yourself pal.
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    With you on that, Tone. I have a Brum one that a previous owner must have worked on. Nice shot cycle, and very good trigger. I’m pretty sure it didn’t come out of the factory like that. I still slightly prefer my Webley Xocet (far better stock), but the fettled Supersport is impressive for what was a low-cost no-frills springer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig-P View Post
    Great read and I’m glad you got it all sorted mate. Enjoy yourself pal.
    Your opinions will be valued when you get to shoot it in a couple of weeks or so, Craig.
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    Cheers for the input so far, chaps.

    Regarding barrels, I've often seen it said that the earlier barrels were better? Any truth in this or is it a case of pot luck / pellet compatibility?
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    The rifle I wanted as a youth. And a bit of me still does.

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    I have my Grandfather's Supersport - to my shame I was thinking of selling it. The factor limiting me from working on it is the amount of pre-load on the mainspring & the need to source/construct some sort of compression device.

    I was given one of the first Supersports as a 15th birthday present & spent hours with it in the garden (Grandad helped my parents buy it for me).

    It had to go back to BSA three times with failed piston seals & they ended up fitting the custom 2-stage trigged & an upgraded piston seal as compensation. Open sights I could bop squirrels headshot at 30 yards every time with that gun.

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    Lightnings are extremely variable in quality and shootability and some of them are absolute dogs - try before you buy is my advice. They are much better in .22 because the action has less work to do to get power through the tiny barrel.

    BSA have always made a good .22 barrel, even post-Gamo. The .177's are a bit more pot luck though.

    End of a broomhandle with a notch cut out did nicely for compressing the spring, some are under a lot of tension though so best done with a sash cramp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyL View Post
    ... One that I bought for my ex-wife () . A snappy, snarling, hold sensitive little beastie. Did the "old school lube tune" back then which, although it improved its manners slightly, the firing cycle left much to be desired.
    she sounds scary, even after lubing her up, no wonder you parted company
    Always looking for any cheap, interesting, knackered "project" guns. Thanks, JB.

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    Hi jacking here I wonder what a .22 in good nick would fetch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Binners View Post
    Hi jacking here I wonder what a .22 in good nick would fetch?
    Brum Supersport, complete and in good, original condition?

    Don't know for sure, but maybe £125-£140?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyL View Post
    Brum Supersport, complete and in good, original condition?

    Don't know for sure, but maybe £125-£140?
    Not a lot then, for such a fine rifle, thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Binners View Post
    Not a lot then, for such a fine rifle, thank you
    Bearing in mind that I'm no expert, Pete.

    If I owned one in fantastic condition I wouldn't be selling it for that sort of money; just guessing at a valuation in that area.

    Maybe a boxed, truly superb example closer to the £200 mark?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyL View Post
    Brum Supersport, complete and in good, original condition?

    Don't know for sure, but maybe £125-£140?
    You can never tell with a Supersport, I bought mine for £90 from a gun shop down the west country and had it sent to the RFD I use, my local gun shop has one for £150 (not sure what age or condition), I may pop in and have a look, I suppose it all depends on condition and if it's had anything done to it.

    I agree with you regarding the Mercury/Challenger style shot cycle, I always thought a Challenger with a Lighting barrel was the best 'pointable' rifle I'd used but when I swapped the Lightning barrel from the Challenger to the Supersport (I know I basically just made a Lightning) it just instantly changed my mind, I'd forgotten how much lighter the Supersport was (I had a Brum Lightning years ago) compared to the Challenger, the thing that really swings it for me is the Supersport Customs stock, that extra high cheekpiece really does make a difference (the same as the Challenger stock is better than the Mercury stock).

    I still find it a bit strange when you pay compliments to anything non HW, I know you shoot and own other rifles and you probably blow your mind when you're at a boinger bash shooting what ever you can get your hands on but normally it's blah blah HW this and blah blah HW that, so it sort of throws me a little when you stray from your HW safe zone.

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