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    I was very surprised to read on another thread that in Scotland there is still a power limit

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    Quote Originally Posted by DukesArcher View Post
    I was very surprised to read on another thread that in Scotland there is still a power limit
    The power limit still stands as it comes from the 1968 Firearms Act which is a UK law, not devolved to the Scottish Government. Frankly, I'm quite glad, because it were devolved I suspect it would be a lot lower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DukesArcher View Post
    I was very surprised to read on another thread that in Scotland there is still a power limit
    Why are you surprised ? They are still low powered airguns so they are on a AWL . Once over 12 ft lbs they are FAC as they are in England and Wales . Northern Ireland puts airguns over a certain limit on FAC over there (energy in excess of one (1) Joule (0.737 ft lbs) and then there is no limit on power.

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    Airguns not Requiring a Firearm Certificate

    In Northern Ireland airguns and CO2 guns having a discharge kinetic energy in excess of one (1) Joule (0.737 ft lbs) require to be held on a firearm certificate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit View Post
    Why are you surprised ? They are still low powered airguns so they are on a AWL . Once over 12 ft lbs they are FAC as they are in England and Wales . Northern Ireland puts airguns over a certain limit on FAC over there (energy in excess of one (1) Joule (0.737 ft lbs) and then there is no limit on power.

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    Airguns not Requiring a Firearm Certificate

    In Northern Ireland airguns and CO2 guns having a discharge kinetic energy in excess of one (1) Joule (0.737 ft lbs) require to be held on a firearm certificate.
    It would have made more sense to have all airguns on a AWL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DukesArcher View Post
    It would have made more sense to have all airguns on a AWL.
    Non of our firearms laws make sense to be fair. At least the Scots kept up that tradition
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    Quote Originally Posted by DukesArcher View Post
    It would have made more sense to have all airguns on a AWL.
    No it wouldn't because if it included sect 1 firearms the AWL would have to have the same rules as getting a FAC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DukesArcher View Post
    It would have made more sense to have all airguns on a AWL.
    It wasn't possible. The UK government only passed the power to legislate on sub 12ftlb air weapons to the Scottish Government. The Scottish Government have no power to change the rules on FACs or the guns held on them.

    The chap who originally proposed the AWC is now a convicted criminal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by distantcamera View Post
    It wasn't possible. The UK government only passed the power to legislate on sub 12ftlb air weapons to the Scottish Government. The Scottish Government have no power to change the rules on FACs or the guns held on them
    Good job, the AWL is a mess in Scotland
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartynB View Post
    Good job, the AWL is a mess in Scotland
    Can't say I had noticed. My AWC was issued when I renewed my SGC. The FEO asked if I had airguns, told me I didn't need to fill in the form and added £5 to the fee.

    Everyone that I know who applied for an AWC before their airgiuns became illegal got it issued in time.

    I don't agree with airgun licensing, but in the cases of me and the people I know it hasn't made any real difference.

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    I had to fill in the forms as my FEO said it was not his dept when visiting for my FAC and SGC renewal ,he did not even want to see the airguns . I got my FAC ,SGC and AWC in the same envelope .

    We wont know until 2021 how many AWC applications there was due to people holding them on their FAC and /or SGC until their renewal.

    Terry Doe on here said the scheme was running at a loss too so it's not a money making scheme either.

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