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    Adding weight to a HW95 silencer and accuracy gains.

    Good day one and all hope you are enjoying this fine weather. I have been doing a little reading and it would appear that adding a little weight to the screw on silencer will be of benefit by reducing muzzle flip. With this thought in my head I was just wondering if any members had done this and what they found. It would also be great to find out how you added the weight and what amount. Any posts would be great to read, many thanks.

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    I swapped mine for a HW98 barrel and shroud.

    A bit louder but much nicer to shoot.
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    The principle is sound. Friend of mine added weight to the muzzle end of his short barrelled 10/22 and a few weeks later scored a possible with it. Different guns I know but I see no reason why this would not apply to any gun - the difficulty is how much weight? Easy enough to experiment though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barrel View Post
    Good day one and all hope you are enjoying this fine weather. I have been doing a little reading and it would appear that adding a little weight to the screw on silencer will be of benefit by reducing muzzle flip. With this thought in my head I was just wondering if any members had done this and what they found. It would also be great to find out how you added the weight and what amount. Any posts would be great to read, many thanks.

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    I get rid of the HW and put on an alloy or steel PH, or EB Sirroco
    The HW is too light for a 12 inch springer barrel -
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    You've got about 3, maybe 4 factors at work here:
    Weight at the muzzle in general tends to make a rifle steadier on aim. Though too much weight will obviously negate the handiness of the 95K.
    Barrel harmonics; less of a thing with springers than with PCPs - whether a light, heavy or medium weight moddy will have a positive effect depends on a few things such as length/thickness of barrel, firing cycle etc. With a long free-floating barrel on a PCP you can get interesting effects with barrel weights. The idea is to tune the barrel vibration so that the pellet leaves the barrel at or near the lowest point of movement (the peak or valley of the sinewave).
    The moderator itself may make the gun more, or less, accurate, by acting as an air stripper or by introducing turbulence as the case may be. This is also complicated by whether the bore is off centre, or the moderator is calibre specific.
    What success any one person attributes to any of those factors could in fact be down to one or more of the others....

    The only way you are really going to know is to try it

    FWIW I have recently had similar thoughts, and spent an evening last week removing a stuck-fast whisper 150 from my 95K (which I know it doesn't shoot well with), and putting a steel SWS moderator on instead. It'll be a while before I can test it though.
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    I think I will give it a go I just need to find a small piece of lead flashing, a visit to my local church later on I think.

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    Yep, works a treat too, I replaced the centre hair curler in mine with a weight that a mate of mine machined up for me...

    You'll need to know the outer diameter of the chambering washers and the overall length of the hair curler, the hole through the middle makes no difference but obviously the bigger it is the lighter the weight will be, I think mine was the standard 7mm but you may be able to reduce that by up to a millimetre as long as it doesn't interfere with pellet flight...
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    Try stick on wheel weights, nice and cheap and you can cut to size!
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    Quote Originally Posted by barrel View Post
    Good day one and all hope you are enjoying this fine weather. I have been doing a little reading and it would appear that adding a little weight to the screw on silencer will be of benefit by reducing muzzle flip. With this thought in my head I was just wondering if any members had done this and what they found. It would also be great to find out how you added the weight and what amount. Any posts would be great to read, many thanks.

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    Properly set up, the 95 won't exhibit any flip.
    Pellet choice is also key.
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    just shorten the stroke a bit (tinbum extension).. fix the problem, not the symptom..
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    weight / silencer / flip..

    old steel P/ hale. with the mandatory hair curler mod and smaller hole baffle washers on both .22, hw 85 & .177, 95, both barrels were shortened the length of the p/h, it did a good job . also as said earlier a nose extension for one of them but alas cannot remember 85 or 95 but memory tells me it was the 95. no springer guru but grouping and shot feel for me was a hell of a lot better gave me the warm glow smile inside instead of the oh f*** head in hands that was a complete waste of time feeling !!! .

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    I have three 95's and tbh I couldn't tell you whether they flip or not. Is it a perceived problem or a real one?
    I set myself up and start shooting and if necessary adjust my scope or poa.
    Perhaps I just expect all springers to be more 'bouncy' than pcp's and thus have not worried about it. As long as the 'flip' , if it is indeed occurring, is consistent then is it a real problem?
    I must pay more attention to my muzzle in future........or maybe I shouldn't ?
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    I've shot a FWB Sport for many many years and have a V-Match fully tuned HW95. At the weight they all are, with a big spring in them, its not surprising they are going to be flighty, hold sensitive. The 95 is cheek weld sensitive.
    For a weight forward rifle buy an Original 45.
    If you want less hold sensitive spring rifle then buy a heavier rifle and tune it smooth too.

    There is a lot going on with anything with a spring in it. Somehow the shooter needs to find a way to let the rifle have a consistent release of the pellet out and beyond the barrel. Its why two different shooters rarely shoot the same gun as well as each other all other things being equal. Heck two same model guns rarely do the same.

    My tuned 95 has very little "flip" at all because its running so smooth.

    Add weight to the end of the barrel of a break barrel and have an accidental let go when cocking and its a fast way to get a banana barrel.

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