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    Adding weight to a HW95 silencer and accuracy gains.

    Good day one and all hope you are enjoying this fine weather. I have been doing a little reading and it would appear that adding a little weight to the screw on silencer will be of benefit by reducing muzzle flip. With this thought in my head I was just wondering if any members had done this and what they found. It would also be great to find out how you added the weight and what amount. Any posts would be great to read, many thanks.

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    I swapped mine for a HW98 barrel and shroud.

    A bit louder but much nicer to shoot.
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    The principle is sound. Friend of mine added weight to the muzzle end of his short barrelled 10/22 and a few weeks later scored a possible with it. Different guns I know but I see no reason why this would not apply to any gun - the difficulty is how much weight? Easy enough to experiment though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barrel View Post
    Good day one and all hope you are enjoying this fine weather. I have been doing a little reading and it would appear that adding a little weight to the screw on silencer will be of benefit by reducing muzzle flip. With this thought in my head I was just wondering if any members had done this and what they found. It would also be great to find out how you added the weight and what amount. Any posts would be great to read, many thanks.

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    I get rid of the HW and put on an alloy or steel PH, or EB Sirroco
    The HW is too light for a 12 inch springer barrel -
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    You've got about 3, maybe 4 factors at work here:
    Weight at the muzzle in general tends to make a rifle steadier on aim. Though too much weight will obviously negate the handiness of the 95K.
    Barrel harmonics; less of a thing with springers than with PCPs - whether a light, heavy or medium weight moddy will have a positive effect depends on a few things such as length/thickness of barrel, firing cycle etc. With a long free-floating barrel on a PCP you can get interesting effects with barrel weights. The idea is to tune the barrel vibration so that the pellet leaves the barrel at or near the lowest point of movement (the peak or valley of the sinewave).
    The moderator itself may make the gun more, or less, accurate, by acting as an air stripper or by introducing turbulence as the case may be. This is also complicated by whether the bore is off centre, or the moderator is calibre specific.
    What success any one person attributes to any of those factors could in fact be down to one or more of the others....

    The only way you are really going to know is to try it

    FWIW I have recently had similar thoughts, and spent an evening last week removing a stuck-fast whisper 150 from my 95K (which I know it doesn't shoot well with), and putting a steel SWS moderator on instead. It'll be a while before I can test it though.
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    I think I will give it a go I just need to find a small piece of lead flashing, a visit to my local church later on I think.

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    Yep, works a treat too, I replaced the centre hair curler in mine with a weight that a mate of mine machined up for me...

    You'll need to know the outer diameter of the chambering washers and the overall length of the hair curler, the hole through the middle makes no difference but obviously the bigger it is the lighter the weight will be, I think mine was the standard 7mm but you may be able to reduce that by up to a millimetre as long as it doesn't interfere with pellet flight...
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    Try stick on wheel weights, nice and cheap and you can cut to size!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zpaulg View Post
    Try stick on wheel weights, nice and cheap and you can cut to size!
    Yep, was going to say that it would be a very interesting line of experimentation to add weights of different mass and also to position them at various different points along the barrel, not just at the muzzle. Jim Tyler pointed this very procedure out a few years ago in AGW when studying barrel vibrations, nodes, anti-nodes etc.
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    I have a mk1 .22 which has a barrel weight fitted as standard, this is probably my most accurate rifle, I paid £120 for it a couple of years ago and wouldn't sell it if I was offered 3 x that, cracking little gun and no muzzle flip, atb Daz

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAD DAZ View Post
    I have a mk1 .22 which has a barrel weight fitted as standard, this is probably my most accurate rifle, I paid £120 for it a couple of years ago and wouldn't sell it if I was offered 3 x that, cracking little gun and no muzzle flip, atb Daz
    My .177 Mk1 the same, Daz. Owned it from new and fitted a V-Mach kit a few years ago. Very accurate with a wide range of pellets and forgiving, too.

    My dad has a Mk1 in .22 which I bought for him, too. He doesn't use it anymore, so I ought to re-home it sometime soon. Whilst collecting that, I ought to also collect my Venom 80s and the un-used Mk2 '77 I told you about at the last Bash.

    I also bought a '95 about six or seven years ago which I think has been described as a sort of interim model. Longer barrel than the current version with the screw-on silencer, making it a little unwieldy. I'm wouldn't be entirely comfortable cocking it whilst holding the silencer and, when I get to the stage when I'm going to be using it, would be tempted to be trying one of Jonny's weights.
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    If you got some lead and a piece of pipe I wonder how easy it would be to cast your own weigh and drill a hole through the middle, assuming you can drill lead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrel View Post
    If you got some lead and a piece of pipe I wonder how easy it would be to cast your own weigh and drill a hole through the middle, assuming you can drill lead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrel View Post
    Good day one and all hope you are enjoying this fine weather. I have been doing a little reading and it would appear that adding a little weight to the screw on silencer will be of benefit by reducing muzzle flip. With this thought in my head I was just wondering if any members had done this and what they found. It would also be great to find out how you added the weight and what amount. Any posts would be great to read, many thanks.

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    Properly set up, the 95 won't exhibit any flip.
    Pellet choice is also key.
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    just shorten the stroke a bit (tinbum extension).. fix the problem, not the symptom..
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