Lightening XL Tac Superstar Trigger Conversation.

[maximus]

With a Lightening on its way to me, I was wondering how easy the above conversion is. Chambers are out of stock of the blade and sear but I think the XL Tac is a pseudo two stage trigger anyway so does anyone know the difference between the Superstar Trigger and the XL Tac?
Thanks Max

[maximus]

Anyone??

[Roundshot]

With a Lightening on its way to me, I was wondering how easy the above conversion is. Chambers are out of stock of the blade and sear but I think the XL Tac is a pseudo two stage trigger anyway so does anyone know the difference between the Superstar Trigger and the XL Tac?
Thanks Max

I don't quite grasp what it is you intend but I can say the trigger blades are interchangeable; I find the Superstar's wide, flat, sharp edged blade uncomfortable, so I replaced mine with a Lightning / Supersport rounded off blade from Knibbs - major improvement in trigger feel.

Both guns' triggers are pseudo 2-stage but I vaguely recall slight differences in mechanisms re: sears and springs.

[TonyL]

I haven't seen the later Lightning triggers close up, so not sure how much it differs.

But, if it helps, I have an early Supersport which I acquired last year. Unknown history and has been customised somewhat by at least one of its previous custodians.

One of the modifications it carries is what I believe to be a copy of a Superstar trigger blade. When you look at a Superstar schematic there should be a small spring that locates in the rear of the blade to give, at a guess, a sprung first stage. The spring is missing in this one giving a "dead" sensation. All other trigger parts are standard Supersport. The release itself is crisp and creep free and quite a usable trigger.

Maybe just get a Superstar (and is the Goldstar the same?) blade and go from there?

[maximus]

Thanks for the replies chaps. On the Chambers schematic it shows different trigger struts on the lightening and Superstar, TR034 (Superstar) v the TR032 on the lightening. This could just be the difference between pseudo two stage v single stage though. Apart from the blade this is the main difference I can see. If I can make the lightening Tac trigger as good as I had the one on my Superstar I'll be a happy bunny ☺️

[scgevans]

From memory...

The early lightnings and supersports have a one stage trigger which was upgraded to the pseudo 2 stage version on the lightning xl.

In theory the pseudo 2 stage trigger from the superstar could be retrofitted to both the early lightnings and supersports (same gun bar the silencer /sights /barrel length).

Theory only from a very old article I read once and as a bsa collector I currently have two superstars and find the trigger very good and an old lightning which I can't decide whether to keep as is, install the superstar trigger if I can get one, or sell and get an xl.. Before I start doing sfs tunes and custom stocks on them to match my superstars....Hth.
Stu

[maximus]

From memory...

The early lightnings and supersports have a one stage trigger which was upgraded to the pseudo 2 stage version on the lightning xl.

In theory the pseudo 2 stage trigger from the superstar could be retrofitted to both the early lightnings and supersports (same gun bar the silencer /sights /barrel length).

Theory only from a very old article I read once and as a bsa collector I currently have two superstars and find the trigger very good and an old lightning which I can't decide whether to keep as is, install the superstar trigger if I can get one, or sell and get an xl.. Before I start doing sfs tunes and custom stocks on them to match my superstars....Hth.
Stu

Thanks SGC. Getting a Superstar sear etc may not be so easy but I'm I intrigued to find out the difference between the xl trigger and the superstar. Pete "look no hands " on here has fiddled with these I think. He must be on hols at the moment I guess. Regards Max

[look no hands]

Thanks SGC. Getting a Superstar sear etc may not be so easy but I'm I intrigued to find out the difference between the xl trigger and the superstar. Pete "look no hands " on here has fiddled with these I think. He must be on hols at the moment I guess. Regards Max

Panic ye not young Maximus, I am indeed here and not on my hols yet, just been playing with my old car as the better weather is now here, to be honest I've not really had any tinkering time with the aforementioned triggers, I am lucky enough to have the set up on my Supersport Custom which they came on as standard and if needed, I can have a look at mine but they are a bit hard to see within the trigger cage, from my vague recollection of the XL trigger, I found that although it's a two stage trigger it was a little Gamo'ish to the feel (as in the trigger blade was like a bit of bent metal) but was far better than a Gamo trigger to use, I've often said that the Superstar trigger is the best I've used, the trigger blade feels lovely to me, nice and wide with a positive finger tip feel and although not a true two stager, it has a very positive stop with the crispest let off, I'm not going to compare it to the Rekord or CD triggers as they both have their own feel and everyone has their own preference.

I once had a SFS tuned Lightning that had the Superstar trigger conversion done by Tony and it is indeed an improvement over the standard trigger, Tony used to get the trigger and sear from BSA themselves but as the parts supply have now dried up, the conversion is no longer offered for the older models but to be honest I don't think many people want to do much with Supersports and Lightnings anymore considering there are a couple of other rifles on the market with better triggers and build quality.

Pete

[scgevans]

Slightly off topic just been shooting the lightning in the shed.. Alongside my mk2 airsporter.. Surprisingly the airsporter has a two stage trigger!