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  1. #1
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    Thinking of getting a muzzle loading pistol

    I’ve been shooting rimfire and fullbore for a long time now and a few of our club members shoot black powder pistols.
    I’m looking at the Uberti 1858 new model army stainless in 44.
    With Uberti , Peddasolli and Pietta making that model, what would be a good choice and why.

    Thank you

    Ps I will be using Pyrodex.
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    Our club & myself have the Uberti, nae issues with it.

    If you want something better, there's still a few Ruger Old Armys out there.
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    Pietta have upped their game considerably over the last three or four years. Reading over on muzzleloadingforum.com, it appears that Uberti are having a few issues with QC - a couple of people there have complained about 'chips' out of the hammer and failing to register the cylinder. Easy to fix in the US of A, where you just send it back to the supplier and get another one. A lot more difficult here with the FAC registration system that means that to all intents and purposes, you have disposed of one gun, and want to buy another identical model.

    I know nothing about Pedersoli handguns.

    IF you can find a Ruger Old Army and keep it running, then it will last into the 24th century. Bad news is that there are NO spare parts left of any kind that are not common with the BLUED Blackhawk revolver - that means, in reality, a couple of screws. Nipples are easy to find - I supply people over here with replacements at a very much smaller price than the usual dealers because I buy them in the USA. I bought mine on March 2nd 1986, and it's still going strong. Figure on paying around £600 or more unless you are really in luck and buy from a giver-upper. Casting your own ball is great fun, and costs less than a tenth of buying them ready made, too. It's no use asking the Ruger Importers, Viking Arms, for any help. either. Later on in 1986, I asked them to supply me with the free-from-Ruger taller foresight.

    Never heard back.

    And then, in 2002, I asked the same again for my Sabre Defence Systems Super Redhawk foresight inserts - as provided with every Super Redhawk sold.

    Never heard back about them, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tacfoley View Post
    Pietta have upped their game considerably over the last three or four years. Reading over on muzzleloadingforum.com, it appears that Uberti are having a few issues with QC - a couple of people there have complained about 'chips' out of the hammer and failing to register the cylinder. Easy to fix in the US of A, where you just send it back to the supplier and get another one. A lot more difficult here with the FAC registration system that means that to all intents and purposes, you have disposed of one gun, and want to buy another identical model.

    I know nothing about Pedersoli handguns.

    IF you can find a Ruger Old Army and keep it running, then it will last into the 24th century. Bad news is that there are NO spare parts left of any kind that are not common with the BLUED Blackhawk revolver - that means, in reality, a couple of screws. Nipples are easy to find - I supply people over here with replacements at a very much smaller price than the usual dealers because I buy them in the USA. I bought mine on March 2nd 1986, and it's still going strong. Figure on paying around £600 or more unless you are really in luck and buy from a giver-upper. Casting your own ball is great fun, and costs less than a tenth of buying them ready made, too. It's no use asking the Ruger Importers, Viking Arms, for any help. either. Later on in 1986, I asked them to supply me with the free-from-Ruger taller foresight.

    Never heard back.

    And then, in 2002, I asked the same again for my Sabre Defence Systems Super Redhawk foresight inserts - as provided with every Super Redhawk sold.

    Never heard back about them, either.
    Good to know Tac, I picked one up a couple of years ago, too good an opportunity to miss (£400); virtually unfired and the owner had died.
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    my friend had a Pietta Remmington copy years back,what a pile of cack,hope they have improved
    ROA spot on,there was 2 in my local shop last month.People buy then when the weather gets bad,fingers blue,they sell up

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    Ruger Old Army

    I have 2, both blued (my personal preference) one with the brass frame. Really like them both. Only issues I had was that on moving to France (where muzzle loading pistols are off ticket over 18's item) I was disappointed to find the Ruger have been reclassified as Cat B meaning the are authorisation only not declaration. Bit of a sod but I can see why. I understand that conversion to 45LC is a doddle - something I may well consider if the local prefecture allows my Cat B.

    Regards

    David

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