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    HELLO, are the any new decent pump ups you can buy today in the UK, i tried the webley years ago and was *****, i was thinking of a go to ratter to keep in motor, i have tried looking for an IMP type HW 99 S.cheers

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    To add to the request above does anyone stock the Crosman/Benjamin in the UK?

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    Crosman still make the 2100 pump up, but sadly not sold here
    Took me ages to find a decent 766 (early 2100) over here...

    If you just want an adult pump up - theres the Webley Rebel which Pellpax are selling for £119... never tried one, so no idea if it's any goood or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvey_s View Post
    Crosman still make the 2100 pump up, but sadly not sold here
    Took me ages to find a decent 766 (early 2100) over here...

    If you just want an adult pump up - theres the Webley Rebel which Pellpax are selling for £119... never tried one, so no idea if it's any goood or not.
    hello, i tried the webley and it was a bit harsh on pumping,

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    The Webley looks like my old Innova from the pics, never held the pump up Webley... Would like to see a Sheridan though

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    hello, i know someone selling a Sheridan MK 1 blue streak in .20 in as new condition, what would you consider these are like,

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvey_s View Post
    Crosman still make the 2100 pump up, but sadly not sold here
    Took me ages to find a decent 766 (early 2100) over here...

    If you just want an adult pump up - theres the Webley Rebel which Pellpax are selling for £119... never tried one, so no idea if it's any goood or not.
    The “Webley” has a poor reputation.

    Quote Originally Posted by oldboyshooter View Post
    hello, i know someone selling a Sheridan MK 1 blue streak in .20 in as new condition, what would you consider these are like,
    By contrast, the older pre-Crosman Sheridans are very good indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldboyshooter View Post
    hello, i know someone selling a Sheridan MK 1 blue streak in .20 in as new condition, what would you consider these are like,
    Lovely, classic rifle. The triggers might not be the best and I suppose their popularity "back in the day" centred around its power output when it was considered that springers wouldn't make "sufficient" power. Slimline, classic looks, compact and makes you question why you may want anything larger and heavier......a bit like a HW99 and that does it all with a simple, single stroke.

    I'd be more than happy to home a Streak, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harvey_s View Post
    Crosman still make the 2100 pump up, but sadly not sold here
    Took me ages to find a decent 766 (early 2100) over here...

    If you just want an adult pump up - theres the Webley Rebel which Pellpax are selling for £119... never tried one, so no idea if it's any goood or not.
    Most reports on the Rebel are pretty unfavourable.....maybe better to track down a nice Innova or, better still, an Ace or Victory.

    Re the 2100.....I don't know if this would be the case now. I had owned a 766 back when I was 17. Accurate and seemingly powerful enough for its duties at the time, including some rat bashing. I wasn't so impressed when the very thin barrel fell off when the securing grub screw came loose!

    But, back in 1998 I acquired a Model 1 cheaply. It was over the limit due to the previous, power mad, owner stuffing a stronger hammer spring in. You had to cock it before pumping. Shortened the spring to get the power back down. I then got a used 766 in 2009. And then sort of got a little carried away. I bought a new 1377 which I still own now. I mini-carbined it, fitting the Crosman shoulder stock, steel breech and scope. Very accurate and it's my preferred Crosman platform.

    I wondered if I could get a new 2100 over here and the answer, seemingly, was "no". However, not taking "no" as an answer, I rang Crosman in the States directly. I was greeted by an extremely helpful, friendly and efficient lady who informed me that, if the UK importer asked for some, they could have them. So I rang ASI and they said, "no problem, order through an RFD and we'll get them". Minimum order quantity was three. I duly ordered them and they arrived a few weeks later at a cost of £67 each. Bargain. And I bought a new 760 at the time, too, just for short range, back garden fun.

    So, I don't know if this could still be done; maybe worth asking, especially if three members wanted one each?

    In 2010 I had the burning gonads for a new HW98. To save costs and de-clutter (keeping 'er indoors happy) I part exchanged all the Crosman rifles. Sometimes I sort of have fond memories, but probably don't really regret it. I might be tempted by one of the newer, sharper looking 760s at some point, though.

    Can't remember which thread Jon Budd mentioned this on, but it would be interesting to see if a thicker, more sturdy rifled barrel could be made to fit a 760. Nothing's impossible if you have the right skills and equipment, I suppose.

    But then I'd keep going back to my preference of the 1377 platform. And, when I was into this short-lived "Crosman craze" and looked in, some of the US 1377-based creations are stunning, accurate and powerful.
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    Excellent read Tony... maybe ordering from the US is the only way to go? Crosmans do seem to get customised a lot and I would love to find a wood stocked 2200 that was affordable hence looking at the Benjamins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamocfx View Post
    Excellent read Tony... maybe ordering from the US is the only way to go? Crosmans do seem to get customised a lot and I would love to find a wood stocked 2200 that was affordable hence looking at the Benjamins.
    You can still buy a new pumper on the UK,Nova Vista Pneupump PCP Air rifle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamocfx View Post
    Excellent read Tony... maybe ordering from the US is the only way to go? Crosmans do seem to get customised a lot and I would love to find a wood stocked 2200 that was affordable hence looking at the Benjamins.
    I'd much prefer a Sheridan / Benjamin (early or late) to a 2200, Carl. Much more solid and with true classic presence. I think ordering from the US would be tricky? The Sheridan / Benjamin models offer in excess of 12ft.lbs muzzle energy and I wouldn't have thought that they'd entertain restricting one to sub-12. If you're patient, one might well turn up on here? One of the shops that I've bought from in the past, Lincoln City , often had Sheridans in. Maybe worth a try? And maybe be worth putting feelers out with people like Blackpool Air Rifles and Protek?

    Er.......just a thought.....Mr Tinbum had one for sale a short while ago. Not sure if he still has it? Seem to remember that it wasn't silly money, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyL View Post
    Can't remember which thread Jon Budd mentioned this on, but it would be interesting to see if a thicker, more sturdy rifled barrel could be made to fit a 760. Nothing's impossible if you have the right skills and equipment, I suppose.

    But then I'd keep going back to my preference of the 1377 platform. And, when I was into this short-lived "Crosman craze" and looked in, some of the US 1377-based creations are stunning, accurate and powerful.
    I've just fitted a old falcon 12mm OD barrel to my bitsa 2200. the std barrel is 8mm OD ! I used the original as a barrel liner for a BSA scoprion years ago. Still quite a bit more work to do on the crosman , but it might be up and running for the bash...
    Always looking for any cheap, interesting, knackered "project" guns. Thanks, JB.

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    The Crosman enthusiasts really turn out works of art and every credit to them, it is certainly on my bucket list to fiddle with one (or more). I can't help but think though that they are a "nearly" gun... as standard they are never there with the quality. It would be interesting to see how popular a 760 etc would be if they released a deluxe model that was not all monkey metal and straw barrels? The concept of the guns are ingenious but sadly they are built to a price.

    I would very much like to see a 2200 with a real barrel as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamocfx View Post
    The Crosman enthusiasts really turn out works of art and every credit to them, it is certainly on my bucket list to fiddle with one (or more). I can't help but think though that they are a "nearly" gun... as standard they are never there with the quality. It would be interesting to see how popular a 760 etc would be if they released a deluxe model that was not all monkey metal and straw barrels? The concept of the guns are ingenious but sadly they are built to a price.

    I would very much like to see a 2200 with a real barrel as well!
    This is very true of much of the American Airgun landscape, “built to a price” that would sell here. We here never allowed the Airgun makers to make the best products they could cause we would not pay for them. Though almost impossible for you overseas to collect, some of their early guns were made much better. I was shooting my 1949 Town & Country 108 this week. Massive, all brass, made for a very short time after the war until they found out no one here would pay for such quality airguns.

    Posted after I made this comment, the 140 is early to enough to see a better Crosman product.
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