what is britains first airrifle for the common man ???

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was it the lincoln jeffries for the uk ????? and did someone say lincoln jeffries was the origins of bsa ... if so when did that company start and stop ???

[Garvin]

was it the lincoln jeffries for the uk ????? and did someone say lincoln jeffries was the origins of bsa ... if so when did that company start and stop ???

Suggest you read up some of the resources here:

https://forum.vintageairgunsgallery....bsa-resources/

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which one theres 5 years of reading

[Huttles94]

Lincoln Jeffries started making his air rifles very early 1900s.

From what I remember he pitched his design to BSA around 1905. Both BSA and Lincoln Jeffries released their rifles together at the same time up until WW1 where BSA took over.

Before the LJ rifles, the majority of air rifles in the UK were foreign made imports.

Though there were other British air rifles being made at the time.

Once such example is the C.G Bonehill Britannia.

A while back I bought this advert that was from a very old catalogue from the early 1900s. Just a single page but shows what can be considered the first British air rifles on the market. (sorry for the poor quality, just dragged it out of storage! Not found a place to hang it yet....)

https://imgur.com/hs6SMv6

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so why did lincoln jeffies go bust or did they , they seem the same same designish ??? why did they not take on bsa ...

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why did they bow out to bsa

[Geezer]

so why did lincoln jeffies go bust or did they , they seem the same same designish ??? why did they not take on bsa ...

why did they bow out to bsa

Basically, LJ was a cottage industry and saw the advantage in having his design purchased and made in large numbers by a well-established industrial manufacturer.

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Basically, LJ was a cottage industry and saw the advantage in having his design purchased and made in large numbers by a well-established industrial manufacturer.

cool does amyone know that they sold out for money wise ???

[Geezer]

And 1905 is correct.

Basically, LJ could only sell to individual customers. BSA had a wide distributor network, across the U.K. and beyond.

A bit like John Browning, greatest firearm designer ever. Never made a gun for sale. Just licensed the designs to Winchester, FN, Colt, Remington, etc.

For the “common man”, probably, but debatable.

The BSA/LJ cost 50 shillings (£2.50) in 1905. That’s about £300 now, corrected for inflation, but we know it would cost much more than that now (£600+), and that there were fewer - far fewer - people back then who could afford to spend that on an air rifle.

[Josie & John]

The first British air rifle was the Lanes Musketeer. A smoothbore version was available in 1903 with a rifled variant following in 1904.

John

[Powderfinger]

Were early Lincolns and BSAs often bought collectively by groups of friends or clubs or pubs?

Lincoln Jeffries are still in business run by Lincoln's descendants. Support them by buying Marksman pellets.

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so basically the lj and bsa design are no different to .. just lj is the first one of the series of many ..

so i take it lj is the more collectable ....or is it the first reproduction bsa ???

[Phil Russell]

Also: Have a read of 'BSA and Lincoln Jeffries Air Rifles' by John Knibbs or even the newer edition 'Lincoln Jeffries & BSA Air Rifles'.
Cheers, Phil

[I. J.]

Anything out of your mums catalogue.

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mothers catalogue had webley tracker in


them old bsa,s and ljs you need an a level and 4 books read tp buy a good example