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    Erma ELG 10 Winchester Rifle

    This rifle probably needs no review because I read two excellent reviews before I bought it last week. They both gave me insight that this would be a rifle I would love to own. Tom Gaylord in his blog: https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2013...-10-air-rifle/ and John Milewski in Airgun World November of 2017.

    What I love to collect are airguns that look and feel like a real firearm. Haenel 28, Tell 3 are examples. The Erma looks and feels just like a Winchester 22 lever action rifle I used to own. As reviewed this rifle is built like a firearm, it would pass for one till you have to load it. I read that Beeman imported less than 100 into the US so they are a rare find. I have only seen one since I started to collect about 4 years ago. Then a couple weeks ago I saw one on a auction site. As I was searching google for information I saw another one for sale at a gun shop. What are the odds! The stocks on these are beech and beech can have a lot of variation in grain patterns. I thought the grain pattern on the one in the gun shop was far superior and would pass for walnut, so I made a bid close to where I thought the auction was headed and they accepted. Just received it and it Chronyed at 625 FPS with Hobbys, about right. Here are pics of mine:

    https://imgur.com/gallery/3xdVPTo

    I know that the current rage is CO2 firearm copies, but are there any other airguns of firearm quality that mimic the real thing?

    Curious what the highest serial number is out there, John’s in Air World was 1442, mines in the 400’s?
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    I think 625fps is exceptionally good as I thought the norm was in the low to medium 400 - 450 fps range. Maybe I read the wrong information sheet. They are very nice rifles.
    Cheers, Phil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Russell View Post
    I think 625fps is exceptionally good as I thought the norm was in the low to medium 400 - 450 fps range. Maybe I read the wrong information sheet. They are very nice rifles.
    Cheers, Phil
    Yes I was happy with 625 as John reported in the 400 but not with Hobbys? Tom reported 400’s till he lubricated the chamber and it went to the mid 600’s. He thought they had leather seals that needed to absorb lube to seal properly? Our two were US imports don’t know if that made a difference? I owned a Winchester lever 22 for years, feel is just amazingly similar, so cool.
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    Superbly crafted guns.

    Mine bears the number 1820.

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    They are fun aren't they. I got mine a few Kempton's ago, its 1137. Haven't chronoed it yet

    Have you thought of military trainers? I don't know if there will be any VZ35s in the states, but if you want firearm quality... The always excellent Tom Gaylord describes one here : https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2015...irgun-trainer/

    That was another Kempton score...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Cornelius View Post
    They are fun aren't they. I got mine a few Kempton's ago, its 1137. Haven't chronoed it yet

    Have you thought of military trainers? I don't know if there will be any VZ35s in the states, but if you want firearm quality... The always excellent Tom Gaylord describes one here : https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2015...irgun-trainer/

    That was another Kempton score...
    Yes I have made a run at a couple VZ35’s but very rare over here and go for more than I was willing to pay. I looked at a Hakim at a Airgun show last month, it was just such a beast! Hard to hold it level lol.

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    I had one of these a few years ago but sold it on because I wasn't using it - there are better guns as shooters, although few that look better. If I'd had one of these when I was young, I would have thought I'd died and gone to heaven!

    The barrel cleaner in the tube under the barrel is a lovely touch.

    Perfect for the cowboy in all of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garvin View Post
    I had one of these a few years ago but sold it on because I wasn't using it - there are better guns as shooters, although few that look better. If I'd had one of these when I was young, I would have thought I'd died and gone to heaven!

    The barrel cleaner in the tube under the barrel is a lovely touch.

    Perfect for the cowboy in all of us.
    The key to improving accuracy is a Cowboy hat and chaps! I agree the brass barrel cleaner is totally over the top. Makes good use of the cartridge tube with something you will probably never use, what other manufacturer would spend the money to do this?
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    I'm sure there was one for sale on here a few months ago. They don't come up all that often. I've never owned one but I remember a pal had an Erma .22 S/A which was absolutely excellent so I'd have high hopes for the EL-10/ Ranger.

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