Titan Manitou .25 accurized

[Benelli B76]

well no expert mate but I have had quite few over the years the main difference is the breach and pellet probe and as for Mr Bowkett what ever you do if you call him don't say the Falcon word ATB

So my my breach and pellet probe are Falcon ? Can you tell me what I should be looking for to identify it as Falcon ? John is a friend of mine, has helped me a lot and have been dealing with him for years on my projects. He could not tell if this was a Titan or Falcon from the pics.

Baz

[greenwayjames]

So my my breach and pellet probe are Falcon ? Can you tell me what I should be looking for to identify it as Falcon ? John is a friend of mine, has helped me a lot and have been dealing with him for years on my projects. He could not tell if this was a Titan or Falcon from the pics.

Baz

You might want to read my previous post number 11 in this thread.


"Both the sloping cut and flat cut breeches were used by Titan. When Falcon stole the design from Titan they hijacked the later flat cut breech block which was current production at the time. Check the Facebook JB fanpage for loads of factual info and photos. There is also a Facebook Titan page as well."

Should you not believe me then ring John yourself. All the fanpage information is provided by JB and I publish it there for him. That way all the info is accurate.

[gingernut]

I think Benelli is agreeing with you.

The breech block isn't definitive and JB can't identify the rifle as one or the other from pics supplied by Benelli.

I sold the rifle to Benelli and I thought it was a Titan as it came from a Titan collector along with another Titan rifle.

Having said that the collecter also had early Falcons.

[ZAKDINGEL]

So my my breach and pellet probe are Falcon ? Can you tell me what I should be looking for to identify it as Falcon ? John is a friend of mine, has helped me a lot and have been dealing with him for years on my projects. He could not tell if this was a Titan or Falcon from the pics.

Baz

The breach as someone has also said are on a slope and not cut straight across as the falcon breach's are ---unless its been changed?? and every titan I have had has had an adjustable hammer --but these also can be changed!!!

[mallyally]

The Difference as i recall is in the bolt if the groove is in the receiver its a titan if its in the bolt its a Falcon !

[Benelli B76]

Yes but what about the early Falcons that were made with identical parts. John Bowkett told me that there were early rifles built by Falcon using Titan supplied parts.
Mine has the adjustable hammer which I have had to set using the 25.4 gr pellets. What I want to know from ZAKDINGLE what specifically makes mine a Falcon.

Baz

[ZAKDINGEL]

Yes but what about the early Falcons that were made with identical parts. John Bowkett told me that there were early rifles built by Falcon using Titan supplied parts.
Mine has the adjustable hammer which I have had to set using the 25.4 gr pellets. What I want to know from ZAKDINGLE what specifically makes mine a Falcon.

Baz

For me Mate its the breach it has the straight cut right across every titan I have and own ------have the slopping breach ATB

[greenwayjames]

For me Mate its the breach it has the straight cut right across every titan I have and own ------have the slopping breach ATB

Read post 17 above bud. The information came from JB himself who as technical director and partner in Titan Develpments should know. THE LATER TITANS USED STRAIGHT CUT BREECHES.
This means that it could either be a late Titan or Falcon pirated copy as they stole the Titan design of breechblock which was in production during Titans later stages - as gingerbiscuit says.

[mallyally]

Yes but what about the early Falcons that were made with identical parts. John Bowkett told me that there were early rifles built by Falcon using Titan supplied parts.
Mine has the adjustable hammer which I have had to set using the 25.4 gr pellets. What I want to know from ZAKDINGLE what specifically makes mine a Falcon.

Baz

My point is that if the Bolt /probe has a groove in it then its Deffo a Falcon if its a peg it could be Debatable

[greenwayjames]

My point is that if the Bolt /probe has a groove in it then its Deffo a Falcon if its a peg it could be Debatable

Thats wrong. Read the post before yours. The later Titan straight cut breeches used the probe with a groove in. Falcon stole the design and used it without any changes.

[mallyally]

Thats wrong. Read the post before yours. The later Titan straight cut breeches used the probe with a groove in. Falcon stole the design and used it without any changes.

Yeah I wrote it the wrong way round If its a peg its Deffo Titan Lol Sorry

[greenwayjames]

Getting confused comes naturally to me as well. No need for the sorry bit. I get a bit carried away over tiny matters sometimes, sorry. James.