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    You need a magnetic or stick on warning label which is a green diamond with a bottle icon on it, this will have "compressed gas" and a "2" at the bottom. It is an offence not to show this if compressed gas is being carried in the vehicle. It is advisable to have one on the front door of your home or the room in which the bottle is kept. I'd advise magnetic because if you do want to become one of the " just do it" brigade then you can remove it before going through road tunnels, which is also an offence without an escort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pistol p View Post
    You need a magnetic or stick on warning label which is a green diamond with a bottle icon on it, this will have "compressed gas" and a "2" at the bottom. It is an offence not to show this if compressed gas is being carried in the vehicle. It is advisable to have one on the front door of your home or the room in which the bottle is kept. I'd advise magnetic because if you do want to become one of the " just do it" brigade then you can remove it before going through road tunnels, which is also an offence without an escort.
    BS I'm afraid; there is no requirement for private individuals to have any of this!
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    carrying pcp bottle

    if carrying dive bottle in vehicle best to display badge in window or back of your vehicle so can easily be seen for carrying compressed air just in case of anything ie accident etc better to be safe than sorry they only cost a few pounds

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    Do I need one also warning I'm carrying about 50 litres of highly flammable petroleum?

    If you feel like doing it, no issue but there's no compulsion to do it.
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    Oh well, I guess all that DSEAR training and certification was a was of time. A fella from Scotland knows it all, best throw away my google and ask him everything in the future.

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    When I did my ADR course the explanation given for the scenario we're talking about (or any domestic probably) is no sign is required. If the FB or any emergency service turn up to a RTA/RTC and see a vehicle with a warning sign then different rules come into play because by rights you havn't got one dive cylinder in your car; you're carrying a load of cylinders. So, any injured people involved will now be waiting a little bit longer before the emergency services can intervine. Of course this was a long time so I won't swear it's not changed. I have a rather zelous official at work who did the course more recently and now thinks carrying 20lts of petrol in a jerry can requires the worlds amount of paperwork and signage. As has been pointed out already in this thread, there's probably four times more fuel in the car.

    So unless somethings changed, it used to be about quantity carried rather than how it's carried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pistol p View Post
    Oh well, I guess all that DSEAR training and certification was a was of time. A fella from Scotland knows it all, best throw away my google and ask him everything in the future.
    I think, if you check, that the regs only apply to carriage of compressed gases, " by way of Trade"!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pistol p View Post
    Oh well, I guess all that DSEAR training and certification was a was of time. A fella from Scotland knows it all, best throw away my google and ask him everything in the future.
    If you have not understood it properly then yes it was a waste of time. DSEAR applies to a place of work and puts a responsibility on the EMPLOYER. A commercial vehicle carrying compressed gas is a place of work, a sportsman's private car is not at a place of work (I guess there might be some argument for a professional sportsman)
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    Quote Originally Posted by threelander View Post
    Hi does anyone know the law on on carrying a bottle to and from the range ??.TIA
    The only law regarding carrying clynders to the range if you are in a cat you display a green compressed air sign
    It lets everyone behind you and the emergency services know You are carrying compressed air

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    Have always carried mine on the back of my motorcycle , nearly lost the bugger a couple of times with the bungee snapping ,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtibbs View Post
    The only law regarding carrying clynders to the range if you are in a cat you display a green compressed air sign
    It lets everyone behind you and the emergency services know You are carrying compressed air
    This not law for non commercial carriage of air cylinders.

    Edit : I’ll see if I can find the actual link to the legislation

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    Extract from the Dept. for Transport guidelines:-

    https://assets.publishing.service.go...nce-note-9.pdf

    Private Carriage of Oxygen Cylinders
    7. Whilst the carriage of oxygen cylinders by private individuals is not covered by
    ADR or CDG as they are fully exempt
    , some simple safety precautions should
    be taken, such as
    • Do not smoke whilst carrying cylinders;
    • Check cylinders for obvious signs of leakage, for example hissing
    sounds;
    • Keep cylinders out of direct sunlight;
    • Do not expose cylinders to high temperatures;
    • Secure the cylinders properly so that they cannot move in transit (some
    cylinders may be transported horizontally or vertically; however you
    would need to check with the supplier).

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    Quote Originally Posted by niloc View Post
    Extract from the Dept. for Transport guidelines:-

    https://assets.publishing.service.go...nce-note-9.pdf

    Private Carriage of Oxygen Cylinders
    7. Whilst the carriage of oxygen cylinders by private individuals is not covered by
    ADR or CDG as they are fully exempt
    , some simple safety precautions should
    be taken, such as
    • Do not smoke whilst carrying cylinders;
    • Check cylinders for obvious signs of leakage, for example hissing
    sounds;
    • Keep cylinders out of direct sunlight;
    • Do not expose cylinders to high temperatures;
    • Secure the cylinders properly so that they cannot move in transit (some
    cylinders may be transported horizontally or vertically; however you
    would need to check with the supplier).
    This only applies to oxygen cylinders which present a greater risk of fire, hence the suggestion to avoid smoking.
    The cylinders being used by airgunners are unsurprisingly compressed air cylinders.
    These contain only 21% oxygen and therefore represent no greater fire risk than the surrounding atmosphere.
    It is obviously prudent to follow the guidelines regarding transport of any high pressure vessel but the contents make a significant difference to the risk and therefore the regulations that apply.

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    OK so decided then, there are no regulations (UK) prohibiting the private carriage of Compressed Air or Oxygen cylinders! So No warning labels required!

    Back to post#17!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DedIdick View Post
    OK so decided then, there are no regulations (UK) prohibiting the private carriage of Compressed Air or Oxygen cylinders! So No warning labels required!

    Back to post#17!
    Well, you are "the fella from Scotland who knows it all".

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