.243 N150 87grn V-Max

[phil384]

Your thoughts on this .243 combo please.

I have the N150 powder, I have the 87 grn Hornady V-Max, I'm using Lapua cases and CCI large rifle primers.

I was going to build up from 33.7 grns to 37.9 grns (watching for pressure signs) at 0.3 grn increments.

I'm using a Lithgow LA102

The SAAMI spec max COAL is 2.710"

Does this look OK? What COAL would you use?

Cheers

[kennyc]

load to book length, start the charge at 5-10% below max and work the load up, length is the last thing to change once you have a safe load giving you the speed you want along with the accuracy you are after.

[phil384]

load to book length, start the charge at 5-10% below max and work the load up, length is the last thing to change once you have a safe load giving you the speed you want along with the accuracy you are after.

To the maximum book length? i.e. 2.710 for the Winny 243

[kennyc]

To the maximum book length? i.e. 2.710 for the Winny 243

whatever your loading manual gives as the COA: for the calibre and bullet you are using

[phil384]

Ta V much

[pothunter]

To the maximum book length? i.e. 2.710 for the Winny 243

2.710 is for 105gn Amax, 87gn will be shorter

[phil384]

2.710 is for 105gn Amax, 87gn will be shorter

I was using the Lee manual which gives the maximum COAL including bullet as 2.710" so the length of the bullet is pretty irrelevant isn't it? Not being funny but surely a longer bullet just sits deeper in the the cartridge? As long as the overall length is under 2.710" its safe?

[pothunter]

I was using the Lee manual which gives the maximum COAL including bullet as 2.710" so the length of the bullet is pretty irrelevant isn't it? Not being funny but surely a longer bullet just sits deeper in the the cartridge? As long as the overall length is under 2.710" its safe?

When you look at the load data from powder/bullet manufacturers or the Lyman manual, there is a different COAL for different bullets.

The seating depth has an impact on the internal ballistics of the cartridge.

If you seat a short bullet long there is more space in the case, so the ignition, pressure and velocity all change because the optimum case fill isn't being achieved, also the bullet will hit the rifling earlier, causing a change in the pressure curve.

If you seat a long bullet short you are possibly creating a compressed load.

The max COAL simply means that the round will safely fit in any SAAMI spec chamber, it doesn't automatically follow that rounds loaded to that length are safe in terms of pressure, are efficient, or accurate.

In my Lyman book an 85gn HPBT is recommended to be loaded to 2.615" and a 90gn FMJBT loaded to 2.650", these are the lengths they used when testing loads, and the pressure figures published were at that length.

[phil384]

Yep, I get it, thanks for the info