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    Quote Originally Posted by MrChipShoulder View Post
    Is that a sideways offer to me?

    If yes, feel free to PM me.
    In your circumstances, I think a replica Remington 1858 might be the perfect introduction to muzzle loading revolvers . The Italian replicas are usually fine, especially as a starter and to gain experience before maybe upgrading to something more upmarket and consequently more expensive later on. As I said in an earlier post, the Ruger is a heavy revolver for single handed precision shooting, whereas the lighter Remington can be held steady for much longer. I would however only consider a Remington replica rather than a Colt should you decide to go down that road.

    Good luck with your quest and be sure to let us know how you get on.
    Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abasmajor View Post
    In your circumstances, I think a replica Remington 1858 might be the perfect introduction to muzzle loading revolvers . The Italian replicas are usually fine, especially as a starter and to gain experience before maybe upgrading to something more upmarket and consequently more expensive later on. As I said in an earlier post, the Ruger is a heavy revolver for single handed precision shooting, whereas the lighter Remington can be held steady for much longer. I would however only consider a Remington replica rather than a Colt should you decide to go down that road.

    Good luck with your quest and be sure to let us know how you get on.
    Brian
    I'm fine with weight As I've spent time on these guns before.
    It is precision target shooting I want, that's what our club is.
    I've won single handed pistol comps in the past (air).
    All my arms are high end, this Ruger will in fact be my cheapest
    I have quite a few hours on muzzle loading revolvers (not mine)
    I have been shooting muzzle loading firearms for the last 2 years and I own 5 already (pistol, Fowler and rifle)
    I can feel the quality of the Ruger and I can hold it still perfectly fine.
    I have shot much bigger metallic case revolvers in the past and actually out shot it's owner

    I'll be fine with a Ruger, just need help finding one that is known to be of good quality/condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrChipShoulder View Post
    I'm fine with weight As I've spent time on these guns before.
    It is precision target shooting I want, that's what our club is.
    I've won single handed pistol comps in the past (air).
    All my arms are high end, this Ruger will in fact be my cheapest
    I have quite a few hours on muzzle loading revolvers (not mine)
    I have been shooting muzzle loading firearms for the last 2 years and I own 5 already (pistol, Fowler and rifle)
    I can feel the quality of the Ruger and I can hold it still perfectly fine.
    I have shot much bigger metallic case revolvers in the past and actually out shot it's owner

    I'll be fine with a Ruger, just need help finding one that is known to be of good quality/condition.
    in my opinion......buy a stainless steel revolver
    friend at club prefers blued guns and they are mint but stainless is best.
    the pietta 1858 as small grips and not the best handling revolver but they can be shooters and just as good as the ruger but not where quality counts

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    I went to the dealer today who had the mint condition 1858, the gun was very nice, but in my mind my heart was set on the Ruger.

    I told him about the Ruger I'd been offered and how I didn't know what it's condition was like, so he pulled out his brand new, nu-shot Ruger from his safe and let me have a feel

    I immediately put it to full cock and felt for play, it had exactly the same as the one I'd been looking at!!

    So I politely declined his 1858 down, turned tail and bought the Ruger that started this thread!

    I've now pulled it apart (couldn't do that in the shop!) and checked the bore and all the workings, and everything is in order

    So I now have Ruger and can't wait to shoot it, just got to get a 457 ball mould now.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrChipShoulder View Post
    I went to the dealer today who had the mint condition 1858, the gun was very nice, but in my mind my heart was set on the Ruger.

    I told him about the Ruger I'd been offered and how I didn't know what it's condition was like, so he pulled out his brand new, nu-shot Ruger from his safe and let me have a feel

    I immediately put it to full cock and felt for play, it had exactly the same as the one I'd been looking at!!

    So I politely declined his 1858 down, turned tail and bought the Ruger that started this thread!

    I've now pulled it apart (couldn't do that in the shop!) and checked the bore and all the workings, and everything is in order

    So I now have Ruger and can't wait to shoot it, just got to get a 457 ball mould now.

    Thanks.
    lol........right pm address and i will sort the conical mold out for you to try.
    thing is rob if you dont handle them often or know exactly whats right or not then its hard .
    i just made myself look a tit this week when testing my tacs out for my brocock me38 magnum.
    all my good tacs fill up lovely with no leakage even though they are 20 year old.
    set up a safe place to shoot through a chrono and when it did decide to work each tac was shooting 120 fps
    every one was more or less cock on and they even shot poi.
    thought it could be the led indoor lights on top of defusers giving a false reading.....the label on the chrony led screen says FPS but i worked these speeds out to 400 fps if it was measuring in MPS.
    unfortunately my hearing is blocked so i cannot hear the report too well so i was convinced its mps but not fps etc.
    looked for manual online and it says if they is a dot between the A and L when flashing then its MPS lol.

    never used chrono before even though i had it years lol
    happens to all of us
    in my opinion you have bought the better revolver and they are a joy to shoot.....keep us informed

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrChipShoulder View Post
    I went to the dealer today who had the mint condition 1858, the gun was very nice, but in my mind my heart was set on the Ruger.

    I told him about the Ruger I'd been offered and how I didn't know what it's condition was like, so he pulled out his brand new, nu-shot Ruger from his safe and let me have a feel

    I immediately put it to full cock and felt for play, it had exactly the same as the one I'd been looking at!!

    So I politely declined his 1858 down, turned tail and bought the Ruger that started this thread!

    I've now pulled it apart (couldn't do that in the shop!) and checked the bore and all the workings, and everything is in order

    So I now have Ruger and can't wait to shoot it, just got to get a 457 ball mould now.

    Thanks.
    I can bring some 457 down on Wed morning and your wax if you can get there. (sorry just checked- 454!)
    Last edited by DesG; 25-07-2020 at 08:40 PM.
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    Thanks Des

    I got a 457 mould on it's way, intend to get to the club in two weeks.

    How have you found that wax, is it any good?

    Cool fact,
    I just looked up when my gun was made, mid hundreds, so was in the first production year, 1976-77.
    So I was 7 years old when it was new

    https://ruger.com/service/productHistory/RE-OAKBP.html
    Last edited by MrChipShoulder; 26-07-2020 at 01:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrChipShoulder View Post
    Thanks Des

    I got a 457 mould on it's way, intend to get to the club in two weeks.

    How have you found that wax, is it any good?

    Cool fact,
    I just looked up when my gun was made, mid hundreds, so was in the first production year, 1976-77.
    So I was 7 years old when it was new

    https://ruger.com/service/productHistory/RE-OAKBP.html
    Hello,

    After all the discussion, it would be nice if you could maybe post some pictures of your new acquisition . The link below is to photo of my Ruger Old Army which I had converted to also shoot smokeless powder using 209 shotgun primers for ignition. As I carefully weigh my smokeless powder charges, I decided to do the same with the BP substitute (Hodgdon 777) rather than dispensing by volume. The best results I've had with the substitute was using 13grns of 777 with a .457 ball seated over a greased wad. The comparable smokeless load is 4.5grns of Herco with a .457 ball lubricated with Alox obviously without the need for a wad.
    Both loads shoot to the same POI on a PL7 target at twenty five yards and easily hold the black if I do my bit.

    https://imgur.com/33xXWRN

    Brian

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