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  1. #1
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    if you were unsure about the revolver then you did the best thing and walk away.
    as you say you have found a few more so they are about.
    staff at henry kranks are excellent and will help you out if needed.
    i needed a main spring for an obsolete calibre remington 1871 rolling block pistol and i couldnt find one anywhere.
    i took the old brased up one in to kranks and spoke to ken who found one from an uberti replica he had in stock.
    it wasnt the same but could be made to fit.....asked him for price
    he said you need to heat it / bend it and re anneal etc sp if you break it which is quite possible then sling it in bin no charge......if it works then pop back in a few weeks and pay for it........it worked
    back to your thread again...... dont be put off by this revolver as they are the best out there....
    need any help then pm me

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    Thank you Loiner,

    The quality of the Ruger Old Army has never been in doubt after you guys had told me they are the best, and indeed, I could feel the quality in my hand in the shop. The problem was with this actual gun, it had suspicious marks and some play where I was told there should be none.

    If there had been a person I trust by my side to check to gun over, I'd have bought it without a second thought, but unfortunately this is/was not the case and as you say, if in doubt, walk away. If I had just bought it blind because a forum member told me to and it turned out to be junk, I'd be stuck with an old obsolete gun needing fixing with no spares backup. I'd also be £400 down, not be able to sell it or shoot it and I'd have lost the only place on my certificate for a 44 revolver, so buying a second 44 revolver would not be an option until this one was gone (or fixed).

    I have looked at Krank and GunStar/Trader and there are a good few listed for about the same money, so I have options. By the sound of what I read, BP pistols are falling on hard times now, and the values are falling by the day. I don't 'need' a BP revolver, I'd just like one, so as they say, you never know what tomorrow will bring?

    I have given some thought to the Remmy I was offered the other day, I trust the seller and it's only £150. By the seems of it, even £150 is too much these days, but the gun is exactly what I'd have wanted if I were buying a Remmy 1858 and the seller says it's tight, mint and basically new. I CAN afford to loss £150, so there is no real risk here, so this maybe my best option until a better Ruger comes along, and it will one day.

    Who knows what is hiding away in my club members gun safes

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    I've got a Ruger safe queen; bought it after the owner died after hardly ever using it at all, I had first option on it & took it. Never fired it myself and will probably sell it this year to someone local.
    Pistol & Rifle Shooting in the Highlands with Strathpeffer Rifle & Pistol Club. <StrathRPC at yahoo.com> or google it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DedIdick View Post
    I've got a Ruger safe queen; bought it after the owner died after hardly ever using it at all, I had first option on it & took it. Never fired it myself and will probably sell it this year to someone local.
    Is that a sideways offer to me?

    If yes, feel free to PM me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrChipShoulder View Post
    Is that a sideways offer to me?

    If yes, feel free to PM me.
    In your circumstances, I think a replica Remington 1858 might be the perfect introduction to muzzle loading revolvers . The Italian replicas are usually fine, especially as a starter and to gain experience before maybe upgrading to something more upmarket and consequently more expensive later on. As I said in an earlier post, the Ruger is a heavy revolver for single handed precision shooting, whereas the lighter Remington can be held steady for much longer. I would however only consider a Remington replica rather than a Colt should you decide to go down that road.

    Good luck with your quest and be sure to let us know how you get on.
    Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abasmajor View Post
    In your circumstances, I think a replica Remington 1858 might be the perfect introduction to muzzle loading revolvers . The Italian replicas are usually fine, especially as a starter and to gain experience before maybe upgrading to something more upmarket and consequently more expensive later on. As I said in an earlier post, the Ruger is a heavy revolver for single handed precision shooting, whereas the lighter Remington can be held steady for much longer. I would however only consider a Remington replica rather than a Colt should you decide to go down that road.

    Good luck with your quest and be sure to let us know how you get on.
    Brian
    I'm fine with weight As I've spent time on these guns before.
    It is precision target shooting I want, that's what our club is.
    I've won single handed pistol comps in the past (air).
    All my arms are high end, this Ruger will in fact be my cheapest
    I have quite a few hours on muzzle loading revolvers (not mine)
    I have been shooting muzzle loading firearms for the last 2 years and I own 5 already (pistol, Fowler and rifle)
    I can feel the quality of the Ruger and I can hold it still perfectly fine.
    I have shot much bigger metallic case revolvers in the past and actually out shot it's owner

    I'll be fine with a Ruger, just need help finding one that is known to be of good quality/condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrChipShoulder View Post
    I'm fine with weight As I've spent time on these guns before.
    It is precision target shooting I want, that's what our club is.
    I've won single handed pistol comps in the past (air).
    All my arms are high end, this Ruger will in fact be my cheapest
    I have quite a few hours on muzzle loading revolvers (not mine)
    I have been shooting muzzle loading firearms for the last 2 years and I own 5 already (pistol, Fowler and rifle)
    I can feel the quality of the Ruger and I can hold it still perfectly fine.
    I have shot much bigger metallic case revolvers in the past and actually out shot it's owner

    I'll be fine with a Ruger, just need help finding one that is known to be of good quality/condition.
    in my opinion......buy a stainless steel revolver
    friend at club prefers blued guns and they are mint but stainless is best.
    the pietta 1858 as small grips and not the best handling revolver but they can be shooters and just as good as the ruger but not where quality counts

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrChipShoulder View Post
    Thank you Loiner,

    The quality of the Ruger Old Army has never been in doubt after you guys had told me they are the best, and indeed, I could feel the quality in my hand in the shop. The problem was with this actual gun, it had suspicious marks and some play where I was told there should be none.

    If there had been a person I trust by my side to check to gun over, I'd have bought it without a second thought, but unfortunately this is/was not the case and as you say, if in doubt, walk away. If I had just bought it blind because a forum member told me to and it turned out to be junk, I'd be stuck with an old obsolete gun needing fixing with no spares backup. I'd also be £400 down, not be able to sell it or shoot it and I'd have lost the only place on my certificate for a 44 revolver, so buying a second 44 revolver would not be an option until this one was gone (or fixed).

    I have looked at Krank and GunStar/Trader and there are a good few listed for about the same money, so I have options. By the sound of what I read, BP pistols are falling on hard times now, and the values are falling by the day. I don't 'need' a BP revolver, I'd just like one, so as they say, you never know what tomorrow will bring?

    I have given some thought to the Remmy I was offered the other day, I trust the seller and it's only £150. By the seems of it, even £150 is too much these days, but the gun is exactly what I'd have wanted if I were buying a Remmy 1858 and the seller says it's tight, mint and basically new. I CAN afford to loss £150, so there is no real risk here, so this maybe my best option until a better Ruger comes along, and it will one day.

    Who knows what is hiding away in my club members gun safes
    my pleasure and i glad to be of service....
    now i do own a mint pietta 1858 NMA and i be honest here rob they are not in the same division as the ruger.
    great fun and can be accurate esp the pedersoli version but again different price range.

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