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    Quote Originally Posted by gtfreight View Post
    I've just bought a 1965 HW35 and I'm going to have a go at restoring it.
    It has no open sights on it, would the ones from a modern 35 fit and if not, is there an alternative?
    It has the original leather piston seal which still seals well. Would I be better getting an adapter and fitting a modern seal?
    I have had a little play with it and it is a very mild mannered gun although I didn't chrono it before I pulled it apart. The spring is about 7.5" long and there are 2 washers that add another .5" so there was very little preload.
    Looking forward to turning it into a looker.
    Hope this helps.

    http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....35-open-sights

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    Thanks for the link Ian but Paul (Mach 1.5) has come to the rescue regarding opens.
    My next dilemma is, what to do with the stock?
    A, Leave as is.
    B, Have a go myself and risk making a pigs ear out of it?
    C, Send it to Nath for "The Works"?
    I can see that it's been done in the past and it's ok with a couple of light marks which is to be expected. I'm not sure if the but pad is original as the fit to the stock isn't quite perfect.
    I'm pretty sure I'm going to be putting more into this than the gun will be worth but it won't be the first gun that's happened to me and I still love the other.

    http://imgur.com/a/pNmLlUI
    http://imgur.com/a/zXUOaeu
    http://imgur.com/a/5EYCWyG
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    Quote Originally Posted by gtfreight View Post
    My next dilemma is, what to do with the stock?

    B, Have a go myself and risk making a pigs ear out of it?

    Have a go yourself! Get a gentle stripper and various grades of sandpaper and wire wool and strip it back to bare wood then make it as soft and smooth as a babys bum. Repair any damage then you can decide what finish you want to give it. This is one I did earlier, a plain boring beech '35 stock. :








    and if I can do it anyone can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post
    Have a go yourself! Get a gentle stripper and various grades of sandpaper and wire wool and strip it back to bare wood then make it as soft and smooth as a babys bum. Repair any damage then you can decide what finish you want to give it. This is one I did earlier, a plain boring beech '35 stock. :








    and if I can do it anyone can.

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    That is lovely Ian. My stock hasn't got the grain to come out like that but if I have a go myself and do mess it up, I can always get it done properly plus there's no chequering which will make it a bit easier. Good shout.
    Is the one you've pictured an ambi' stock with no cheek piece like mine? I don't know if these are common or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtfreight View Post
    That is lovely Ian. My stock hasn't got the grain to come out like that but if I have a go myself and do mess it up, I can always get it done properly plus there's no chequering which will make it a bit easier. Good shout.
    Is the one you've pictured an ambi' stock with no cheek piece like mine? I don't know if these are common or not.
    Its a standard '35 beech stock. You may not think theres any grain there until you have removed all the old finish then I usually wet it (several times between sandings ) and this will give you an idea what your playing with. I enhanced the grain with a bit of wood dye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post
    Its a standard '35 beech stock. You may not think theres any grain there until you have removed all the old finish then I usually wet it (several times between sandings ) and this will give you an idea what your playing with. I enhanced the grain with a bit of wood dye.

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    Thanks again Ian.
    Next time you're at RAGC say hello to Mick Pomphrey and his friend Graham for me please?
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    I've started to rub the stock down and spent a couple of hours on it and it feels like glass but I don't think it looks great, where the grain is it appears dirty, as if some of the rubbing has got into it but it won't come out with white spirit so I'm thinking that it's how the wood is.
    At least I'm getting the little dents out.👍
    http://imgur.com/a/hvJYx07

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtfreight View Post
    I've started to rub the stock down and spent a couple of hours on it and it feels like glass but I don't think it looks great, where the grain is it appears dirty, as if some of the rubbing has got into it but it won't come out with white spirit so I'm thinking that it's how the wood is.
    At least I'm getting the little dents out.��
    http://imgur.com/a/hvJYx07

    I usually use a mild stripper that gets into the grain. Thickly paint it on then put it into a bin bag overnight but make sure you get all the stripper off and give it a good sanding back to smooth with wetting between sanding.

    I will pass you regards on to Mick & Graham.

    This is a beech Daystate (Air Ranger) stock that I bought off here ( http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....ghlight=Ranger ) which I recently stripped of its black tar finish. Boy did THAT take some moving.



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    I'm in awe Ian. I'd better get some Nitromors ordered, or would you recommend something else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtfreight View Post
    I'm in awe Ian. I'd better get some Nitromors ordered, or would you recommend something else?

    Personally I wouldn't use Nitromors. While Ive not actually used it I have heard of some horror stories about it seeping into the stock and effecting the final finish, but like I say Ive not actually used it. Ive also heard the modern stuff is useless.

    What I do use, usually to good effect is: TX10 Paint and Varnish stripper by Bartoline. (It contains Benzyl alcohol - or so it says on the back of the plastic bottle.). You will probably be able to get summat similar from your local hardware shop or ScrewFix etc.


    Heres a couple of topless strippers for you.https://imgur.com/41ppMAG
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    TX10 ordered. I take it that it won't eat into the bin bag?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtfreight View Post
    TX10 ordered. I take it that it won't eat into the bin bag?
    It never has when Ive left it overnight.

    Of course, you will not be able to use the bag again for your Halloween costume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post
    It never has when Ive left it overnight.

    Of course, you will not be able to use the bag again for your Halloween costume.
    I was going to use it for underpants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtfreight View Post
    I was going to use it for underpants.
    Go commando.
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    I have now got the stock rubbed down to a satisfactory finish but rather than have a go at staining and laquering myself I've decided to give it to Nath92 (from the AGF) who did the stock on FWB 124 and it is fantastic.
    He's only a 30 minute drive away and for what it's costing I wouldn't be able to buy the materials nevermind all the work to be done, and I may get an ok result.
    I will post pictures when it comes back.
    Here's what it looks like after 5 hours of rubbing.
    http://imgur.com/a/Fi5x6pN
    http://imgur.com/a/2IOAcYS

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