Is plastic now acceptable on airguns

[Tony.T]

I have no problem whatsoever with polymers (FFS not 'plastic') on modern guns. When did you see a L82A1 (aka wrongly known as a SA80) with walnut stocks?? Or a M4A1? You haven't because wood would disintegrate in use.

Some years back I was lucky to own and shoot a Glock 22 (.40S&W, a very whacky round) I used this pistol for police pistol and IPSC comps. To this day every morning I look in the mirror when I shave and I'm not surprised that I haven't got a hole in my face because the slide never flew backwards off the frame when I shot my pistol
I had a Remington PA shotgun with polymer 'furniture', excellent gun. I also had a Remington 700 police (bull barrel) rifle with a custom designed polymer stock- quite superb. Due to life changes those two have gone- but I bought a Remington Express springer with a polymer stock and it's surprisingly good. A few mates bought theirs with woodstocks. Guess which one we judged to be best... (hint- not the one with knots)

What I'm really saying is embrace the modern world, fine walnut is wonderful on a best London shotgun or fine rifle. But a tool to be used in all conditions? Don't think so.

[Geezer]

Much as I like walnut and fine blueing, there is absolutely nothing wrong with good polymer, or, indeed modern protective metal finishes.

For the record, the SA80 was in military service designated the L85 series, and the first A1 variant was truly awful in almost every respect.

A major reason for service rifles moving from wooden to polymer stocks in the 50s and beyond was that sustained rapid/burst fire would actually set the front hand guards on fire. An issue to this day with older AKs, and the reason why back in the 70s and 80s you would often find British L1A1 SLRs with wooden butts and pistol grips, but polymer fore-ends.

None of which applies to airguns. But good polymer, used right, is great. Cheap plastic (think 70s Crosmans) isn’t the same thing.

[mrto]

Imagine if gorgeous 18th century Pennsylvania rifles had incorporated the use of polymers in their patch boxes,butt plates or trigger guards!

[OldGreyDog]

I'm not keen on seeing plastic used in gun construction, especially mouldings used as end-plugs and open sights. However I have to concede that ballistic grade resins are in common use for bullet firing pistols and military rifles, so it must be up to the job.

Internally there's not much in the way of alternative other than 'old school'leather for seals.

[mrto]

It's always the cheap option and when used on a gun reduces it's overall quality IMO.

[harvey_s]

It's always the cheap option and when used on a gun reduces it's overall quality IMO.

You wouldn't say that if you saw the price of injection moulds .

[bighit]

You wouldn't say that if you saw the price of injection moulds .

Also maintaining the moulds as some will only last for so long before needing replacement.

[Tony.T]

Much as I like walnut and fine blueing, there is absolutely nothing wrong with good polymer, or, indeed modern protective metal finishes.

For the record, the SA80 was in military service designated the L85 series, and the first A1 variant was truly awful in almost every respect.

A major reason for service rifles moving from wooden to polymer stocks in the 50s and beyond was that sustained rapid/burst fire would actually set the front hand guards on fire. An issue to this day with older AKs, and the reason why back in the 70s and 80s you would often find British L1A1 SLRs with wooden butts and pistol grips, but polymer fore-ends.

None of which applies to airguns. But good polymer, used right, is great. Cheap plastic (think 70s Crosmans) isn’t the same thing.

Apologies- you're right- L85!

[Harley_Steve]

I have to admit that I'm not a fan of plastic. When I bought my HW100 the first thing I changed was the plastic (polymer) trigger for a lovely Rowan Engineering one.
There was nothing wrong with the HW trigger other than it was plastic, and it didn't make me shoot any better (I'm still crap), but it looks much better than the standard plastic trigger.

[Steyr]

I have to admit that I'm not a fan of plastic. When I bought my HW100 the first thing I changed was the plastic (polymer) trigger for a lovely Rowan Engineering one.
There was nothing wrong with the HW trigger other than it was plastic, and it didn't make me shoot any better (I'm still crap), but it looks much better than the standard plastic trigger.

maybe you should ask Rowan to replace your finger and the neural network its cconnected too.

The plastic trigger on the 100 is absolutley fine. if you had said the S200, yeah I get your point....

A decent trigger blade makes a difference to a few. A decent trigger makes a difference to even more.

But high end plastics and polymers have a very valid place in the gun world.

Its the users mind that is more typically the weak link in the chain.

[Saxmaniac]

I have no problem whatsoever with polymers (FFS not 'plastic')Some years back I was lucky to own and shoot a Glock 22 (.40S&W, a very whacky round) I used this pistol for police pistol and IPSC comps. To this day every morning I look in the mirror when I shave and I'm not surprised that I haven't got a hole in my face because the slide never flew backwards off the frame when I shot my pistol ldgrin

I actually saw this happen, late 80’s or early 90’s, whenever it was that Glock’s hit the UK market. My local RFD had one of the first, brought it to the range, retaining lugs in the frame sheared under recoil and the slide detached. Fortunately no injuries.

He put it back in its Tupperware box and returned it!