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    Quote Originally Posted by MrChipShoulder View Post
    I do like the idea of a thick grease, can anybody tell me an off the shelf UK brand they know works?
    One of the biggest problems I have on forums, especially MLF, is most people keep giving me brands only in the US, cos it's a US forum. This is why I asked the question again here, hoping to get a more UK based answer.
    It's NOT a thick grease, it's a THIN grease, of the kind used to pack water pumps/bearings or similar. A similar light grease can be bought in Halfords, or your local auto spares/accessory store. It is about the same colour as honey or peanut butter, but slightly thicker in consistency. Lots of us Swiss shooters as well as BP shooters use LM2, a light lithium-grease used for many HT applications, but also one that will work well on the cylinder pin of any BP revolver. CarLube is the brand, here in UK.

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    Thank you Tac.
    Is this it?
    https://www.monandborder.co.uk/search.php/lm2

    If yes, I'll get some tomorrow, seems Halfords don't list it on their website, I can get it from my local Motor factor.

    I'll also do my best to dry out the barrels on the next clean.

    Hopefully with dryer barrels and this LM2, I'll be able to get on top of my rusting issue.

    Just as a side note, I've gone back through my guns this evening and re-patched and re-oiled them all again after their clean the other week.
    There was some dirty patches, but not too much (other than the pistol patch I just showed you), but they were quite dry. The oil seems to have buggered off.
    I kept patching until spotless again and re-oiled them.
    I also checked them with a bore light, they all looked shiny.
    So no damage that I can see or feel thus far!


    UPDATE 6-7-2020
    Carlube LM2 grease now bought.
    Last edited by MrChipShoulder; 06-08-2020 at 12:03 PM.

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    [QUOTE=MrChipShoulder;7911016]Thank you Tac.
    Is this it?
    https://www.monandborder.co.uk/search.php/lm2[QUOTE]

    Yup.

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    Hi I dont use a muzzle loader but shoot 12g BP shotguns. I have done numerous tests on the rust proofing of steel. The only oil which will hold back rust on new clean mild steel for months on end. "on the roof of my shed in winter" is ACF 50.
    A light coating in a clean barrel WILL stop it rusting.
    When I die don't let my wife sell my guns for what she thinks I gave for them!!!

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    The rust may be due the metal surface being absolutely clean. The oil, as well as putting up a protective barrier, will solve the problem of the clean surface.
    This cylinder was cleaned in hot water and dried. It was then put under the grill to make sure the nooks and crannies had dried out. When I took it off the grill, still fairly warm, this rust had formed.
    It can't be from the blackpowder residue so I can only think it was because of the perfectly clean surface that the metal was able to oxidize from the damp in the air.
    When browning a barrel it works the same way. The chemical, Ammonium Chloride, cleans the surface off and allows it to oxidize.

    https://i.postimg.cc/ZqMch2rV/Rust.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Dunkley View Post
    Hi I dont use a muzzle loader but shoot 12g BP shotguns. I have done numerous tests on the rust proofing of steel. The only oil which will hold back rust on new clean mild steel for months on end. "on the roof of my shed in winter" is ACF 50.
    A light coating in a clean barrel WILL stop it rusting.

    Never heard of ACF-50 before.
    Seems it's petroleum based though.
    Last edited by MrChipShoulder; 07-08-2020 at 12:12 AM.

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    Acf 50

    Quote Originally Posted by MrChipShoulder View Post
    Never heard of ACF-50 before.
    Seems it's petroleum based though.
    I would not have thought the minute amount left after a dry mop would do harm! There is no need to soak the bore in it!
    When I die don't let my wife sell my guns for what she thinks I gave for them!!!

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    So it seems that the LM2 grease Tac advised is working.

    This is the patch that came out my daughters 36cal pistol 4 days after the last clean after a day of shooting it. With my old cleaning system, the patch would have showed brown rust in the oil after this length of time. As you can see, nothing but grease now.

    https://ibb.co/hsPyf6j

    I did make one change to the cleaning process last Sunday though, and that was to blast an air line up and down the bore after washing. In all honesty, this may well have gone quite a long way to helping as I'm sure it would have dried the barrel out better than patches? I don't have a water trap on the air line, but it doesn't seem to have mattered on this occasion.

    I was trying to keep away from compressed air as it's nice to be able to clean without the use of large tools, but needs must some times! I guess it doesn't really matter, as I very much doubt I'll ever need to 'field clean' any of my guns, always workshop cleaning at home! Plus I've taken to using my ultra sonic cleaner for my stainless revolver anyway, so what the hell, power tools here we come !!!

    I know we 'butt heads' Tac, but thanks for the help on LM2 grease.
    Thanks where thanks is due

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