Bulk black powder

[Peter Dunkley]

Hi does anyone know the rules for buying black powder and passing it on to mates?
I am aware that the max anyone can keep is 10kilo but if I buy this amount and share it between mates who all of course have black powder licences. DO I HAVE TO KEEP A RECORD OF THEIR CERTS? i KNOW WHEN i BUY A RECORD IS KEPT BY THE SELLER BUT DOES THIS ONLY APLY TO COMMERCIAL SELLERS . ie. Mr Krank and Clay and game.
Thanks.

[Turnup]

I am not aware of any requirement but it would be good practice to do so - no big deal to write down a few details - suggest quantity + name + address + cert no and if really worried have them sign as receiving it.

A member of my ML club drove to the Vesuvit importer (Market Harborough??) and purchased 32 x 1kg tubs of VLC. They assured him that he could transport up to 50 kg in his car with no special arrangements (!). He did have to disburse it all the same day because he could not legally store it, so we all met up in Bisley that evening. He was recording certs but AFAIK he has never been asked to account for that 32kg. As a side note it would have ben even cheaper to purchase it in 16kg bags but none of us fancied dividing it up.

I doubt that you would be in danger of selling by way of trade if it's just some mates.

[Peter Dunkley]

Thanks for that. Seems to be a loophole. What prompted me to ask is that the guy at Clay and Game said Various FEOs did contact him to see who he had sold to. Of course he did not know if they followed up on this information.

[Turnup]

I would not say it was a loophole. They don't hand out explosive licences like sweeties and there is the reasonable expectation that cert holders will act responsibly.

[enfield2band]

I would say it is NOT a loophole either. The FEO's are probably keeping a check on where the powder is going, perhaps to avoid anyone stockpiling it. It did happen at one time. I heard of someone who had a tea chest full of loose powder in their cellar. That was many years ago but it is not impossible for someone to do it even now. A check on where it is going would flag this up and could be prevented.

[tacfoley]

I would say it is NOT a loophole either. The FEO's are probably keeping a check on where the powder is going, perhaps to avoid anyone stockpiling it. It did happen at one time. I heard of someone who had a tea chest full of loose powder in their cellar. That was many years ago but it is not impossible for someone to do it even now. A check on where it is going would flag this up and could be prevented.

Not a 'Guy' called Fawkes, was he?

I thought the figure was 15kg - maybe I'm out of date.