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    Need counsel on getting to a grudge Bell Target Match in the UK

    Having watched Matt’s (ptdunk) utube on the Britannia I am convinced he picked a BSA Standard that He knew wouldn’t compete with his Britannia in that Bell Target Match. I feel I now have the perfect BSA Light to dispel this travesty of Britannia domination. My main issue is I need your help on the way to the match. I pack my 1919 BSA light with full documentation as to its 7 FPE and hope that this date also triggers your antique relic exemption? I land at Heathrow do I have a chance to make it to the Match on time?

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    I’m intrigued!, what’s this “Grudge match”?. Must keep the supremacy of BSA’s to the forefront!.
    DaveM. (Comp sec Lea Valley).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAVALI View Post
    I’m intrigued!, what’s this “Grudge match”?. Must keep the supremacy of BSA’s to the forefront!.
    DaveM. (Comp sec Lea Valley).
    Just a joke given my increased interest in English Bell Target. Got me curious if UK restrictions would apply to this old a gun?
    Last edited by 45flint; 12-08-2020 at 08:21 AM.

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    Come on over, you’d love a vintage comp.
    I think Lea Valley usually has 20-30 competitors/enthusiasts on their monthly vintage shoot.

    You’d be very welcome, and I’d enjoy a bell target shoot off!

    Cheers,
    Matt

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    Btw, regarding fake news...

    Ask DEVALI how that little light pattern did in the Lea Valley Bell target comps last year against lots of other BSA’s.
    I had to buy a few other rifles as people started getting annoyed that it kept winning...

    Come to think of it that light pattern is partly responsible for me expanding my vintage collection.,.

    God bless it

    Cheers,
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    If I showed up I would have to flick up my aperture sight and you would send me home?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45flint View Post
    Just a joke given my increased interest in English Bell Target. Got me curious if UK restrictions would apply to this old a gun?
    While working in Indy, I saw a boxed Webley Premier in a Pawn shop (Dock Bros)......I declared it as a firearm on check in when rotating back home, and the Homeland guys came to look ...."Hell boy, that's just a BB gun" one said.....The other asked me how it worked, picked it up and felt the weight / had a look and said (paraphrased) "sure is a nicely made thing, better than anything I have ever seen for an air gun".

    I got a G+P sticker for the case (Give protection / firearm or similar) and off it went.

    At Heathrow, everybody was away to their cars while I waited at the carosel for my case which did not arrive.........then the tannoy said "would Mr X make himself known to customs please"

    I went over and two guys were there behind a counter, one with a ream of papers.

    "we are given to understand you are importing a fiream sir, can you open the case and stand back please"

    Case opened, Webley box removed from rolled up clothes.

    "Oh it's just a bleedin' air pistol says one"

    Other one "How powerfull is it, and do you have a certificate etc." (this had me worried)

    First (older) one.."don't be daft, this would not hurt you at 30 feet, I had a few of these as a youngster......It's in very good condition, how old is it?"

    And that was that!......maybe I was lucky in who I dealt with on both sides of the pond, but was painless and a bit of banter for me at least

    ATB, Ed
    Last edited by edbear2; 14-01-2021 at 12:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edbear2 View Post
    While working in Indy, I saw a boxed Webley Premier in a Pawn shop (Dock Bros)......I declared it as a firearm on check in when roating back home, and the Homeland guys came to look ...."Hell boy, that's just a BB gun" one said.....The other asked me how it worked, picked it up and felt the weight / had a look and said (paraphrased) "sure is a nicely made thing, better than anything I have ever seen for an air gun".

    I got a G+P sticker for the case (Give protection / firearm or similar) and off it went.

    At Heathrow, everybody was away to their cars while I waited at the carosel for my case which did not arrive.........then the tannoy said "would Mr X make himself known to customs please"

    I went over and two guys were there behind a counter, one with a ream of papers.

    "we are given to understand you are importing a fiream sir, can you open the case and stand back please"

    Case opened, Webley box removed from rolled up clothes.

    "Oh it's just a bleedin' air pistol says one"

    Other one "How powerfull is it, and do you have a certificate etc." (this had me worried)

    First (older) one.."don't be daft, this would not hurt you at 30 feet, I had a few of these as a youngster......It's in very good condition, how old is it?"

    And that was that!......maybe I was lucky in who I dealt with on both sides of the pond, but was painless and a bit of banter for me at least

    ATB, Ed
    How long ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45flint View Post
    How long ago?
    Was 2014 according to Flikr folder. I think it's all about how you behave and your attitude as well to be fair, on flights I was on I saw other work staff getting shirty when bags were checked as they had put Snap On tools in etc. so then they waited longer as everything was checked



    At customs, or at an Airport, especially in the world now, I have no problem at all with any security checks but some folk just can't seem to accept the slightest delay. Usually the ones who have been in a queue staring at the remove belt / shoes / etc. etc. signs for 10 mins, and seemingly not noticing everyone around them getting ready for the checks, untill it's their turn and then it's all huffing and puffing and holding everyone up.


    Carrier was Delta by the way, out of Indy, direct to LHR.

    Firearm guidence here;

    https://basc.org.uk/firearms/visiting-the-uk-to-shoot/

    I took the decision to declare a firearm myself as obviously it would not get past the scanner (you would hope) and also you get better care of your case as it is personally loaded / unloaded (at least on Delta);

    https://www.delta.com/us/en/baggage/...sives-firearms

    They are more used to folks cutting about with full bore hunting rifles / pistols and crates of ammo.......so a lil'old airgun was almost like a joke for them



    ATB, ED

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    challenge match!

    Quote Originally Posted by 45flint View Post
    Having watched Matt’s (ptdunk) utube on the Britannia I am convinced he picked a BSA Standard that He knew wouldn’t compete with his Britannia in that Bell Target Match. I feel I now have the perfect BSA Light to dispel this travesty of Britannia domination. My main issue is I need your help on the way to the match. I pack my 1919 BSA light with full documentation as to its 7 FPE and hope that this date also triggers your antique relic exemption? I land at Heathrow do I have a chance to make it to the Match on time?
    Be very careful what you wish for ,Matt is special in the accuracy department.
    HERX77 .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herx77 View Post
    Be very careful what you wish for ,Matt is special in the accuracy department.
    HERX77 .
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