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    Crosman trapmaster co2 shotgun

    I’m looking for a Crosman 1100 trapmaster

    Not a lot in UK now but I know they’re still out there.

    Has anyone owned one of these beautiful co2 shotguns?

    Also what are the legalities on owning one of these?

    I’ve heard you need FAC or SGC to own one, is this true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee5159 View Post
    I’m looking for a Crossman 1100 trapmaster

    Not a lot in UK now but I know they’re still out there.

    Has anyone owned one of these beautiful co2 shotguns?

    Also what are the legalities on owning one of these?

    I’ve heard you need FAC or SGC to own one, is this true?
    Personally I would say that it does not seem to fall into the definition of the firearms that require and fac or a sgc to own (read s.1 of the firearms act) , subject to (I would think) the total energy of all the pellets fired in one go being under 12 ftlbs.

    But that’s just a bloke on the Internet reading an Act.
    Morally flawed

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    Crosman Shotgun

    According to the article in the first edition Air Gun Digest, the Crosman had a bore of .380 with no choke, and according to Crosman each shot container held 62 grains of US equivalent to 8.5 shot, diameter .086 inch in diameter. Muzzle velocity was quoted at between 400 to 450 fps.

    Each pellet weighed about a grain, so an individual pellet would be under the limit, but all together who knows.

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    Each pellet weighed about a grain, so an individual pellet would be under the limit, but all together who knows.

    Muzzle energy is what it says on the tin. If that is over 12 ft/lbs when discharged it is a section 1 firearm

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwayjames View Post
    Each pellet weighed about a grain, so an individual pellet would be under the limit, but all together who knows.

    Muzzle energy is what it says on the tin. If that is over 12 ft/lbs when discharged it is a section 1 firearm
    A quick look at an online energy calculator says 62 grains at 450fps = 28ft lds Ouch

    Its a smoothbore, whats the barrel length? if over 24" it would class as a shotgun, under 24" it would be FAC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keith66 View Post
    A quick look at an online energy calculator says 62 grains at 450fps = 28ft lds Ouch

    Its a smoothbore, whats the barrel length? if over 24" it would class as a shotgun, under 24" it would be FAC.
    For my money that’s the answer then. It’s on ticket one way or the other because of the ME.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keith66 View Post
    A quick look at an online energy calculator says 62 grains at 450fps = 28ft lds Ouch

    Its a smoothbore, whats the barrel length? if over 24" it would class as a shotgun, under 24" it would be FAC.


    I have checked this out with an RFD who was heavily involved in the manufacture of airguns, now only one-offs. He had checked this out at the request of several customers who wanted smoothbore air shotguns. Because the ME is over 12 ft/lbs it is classed as a section one firearm and would not class as a shotgun. You might want to argue that in court if you have money to throw awy on expensive lawyers.

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    This is a very useful discussion, but can we keep to facts or actual relevant legislation please.

    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unframed Dave View Post
    This is a very useful discussion, but can we keep to facts or actual relevant legislation please.

    Thank you.

    Dave
    Well said

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