Webley Premier question

[accused]

Nice, has the bottom one got a tempest barrel?

[WebleyWombler]

has the bottom one got a tempest barrel?

The bottom pistol is a Premier MkII. Built with an aluminium body and steel air tube. it was the pre-curser to the Hurricane/Tempest line and that type of barrel was standard on most of that model over the 2 short years of it's production life. Probably the worst examples of Webley workmanship that anyone will ever encounter

[accused]

Ah I see I noticed it looked different, I will get a Premier at some point to join my Senior and Tempest, my Tempest shoots better but the Senior is just better made

[laverdabru]

The bottom pistol is a Premier MkII. Built with an aluminium body and steel air tube. it was the pre-curser to the Hurricane/Tempest line and that type of barrel was standard on most of that model over the 2 short years of it's production life. Probably the worst examples of Webley workmanship that anyone will ever encounter

I'm guessing you have never had the 'pleasure' of owning an early Hawk Mk 2? My nearly new example back in the day broke it's stock, replaced by Webley. It also had issues with the trigger, safety catch, piston rings...Owned most post war Webley pistols, never bought a rifle from them made after the Hawk.

[peddy]

Bought my premier E series boxed when I was 17 for a tenner (37 years ago!) I put a tr robb ptfe seal and new spring in not long after I bought it, still knocks out over 3fpe. Great usuable pistol. I totally agree with above comment about the hawk mk2 I've had mine since I was 11 and has every possible mod done to get it shooting ok. My dad went mad when he saw me pushing the safety catch it to make it fire, I thought it was a feature!!!

[laverdabru]

I totally agree with above comment about the hawk mk2 I've had mine since I was 11 and has every possible mod done to get it shooting ok. My dad went mad when he saw me pushing the safety catch it to make it fire, I thought it was a feature!!!

Yes, mine did that - I used to call it the match trigger! Stock broke, replaced by Webley, trigger/piston rings wore out, had virtually all the internals replaced.

[abellringer]

Hi guys, not been on for some time, medical and assorted reasons. Just a quick reply to the guys ref Hawk Mk 2. Chances are I probably repaired your guns; I was senior repair airgunsmith in the 70's. Sadly these guns were made to suit accountant directors. I eventually left due to constant arguments about quality and design. The reason the stocks broke so often was that blank layout per plank was changed; proper layout gave 3 stocks per plank with strength through the pistol grip; said director insisted on a new layout giving 4 stocks per plank, to increase profit, but with no strenth in the grip. The trigger was abysmal and two of us did a decent design, but it cost a few pence more so it was dumped, cost again.
Sorry guys

[Dutch]

I have got one over here and it is indeed a shadow of all the beauty & quality Webley has been delivering for so many years.

[laverdabru]

Hi guys, not been on for some time, medical and assorted reasons. Just a quick reply to the guys ref Hawk Mk 2. Chances are I probably repaired your guns; I was senior repair airgunsmith in the 70's. Sadly these guns were made to suit accountant directors. I eventually left due to constant arguments about quality and design. The reason the stocks broke so often was that blank layout per plank was changed; proper layout gave 3 stocks per plank with strength through the pistol grip; said director insisted on a new layout giving 4 stocks per plank, to increase profit, but with no strenth in the grip. The trigger was abysmal and two of us did a decent design, but it cost a few pence more so it was dumped, cost again.
Sorry guys

Not your fault! My early Hawk Mk 2 broke at the pistol grip after a few months of ownership - it had been bought nearly new as a b'day prez for my 15th back in the day. Webley replaced the stock, the 'new' one was different, less of an angle on the grip, noticeably wider.
The accountant directors responsible are the reason I have never bought a later Webley rifle than the Hawk.

Interestingly, am really pleased with the performance of the later Webley pistols I own, Hurricanes/Tempest. Much better than the Junior/Mk 1/Seniors/Premiers I've owned

Bru

[Geezer]

Hi guys, not been on for some time, medical and assorted reasons. Just a quick reply to the guys ref Hawk Mk 2. Chances are I probably repaired your guns; I was senior repair airgunsmith in the 70's. Sadly these guns were made to suit accountant directors. I eventually left due to constant arguments about quality and design. The reason the stocks broke so often was that blank layout per plank was changed; proper layout gave 3 stocks per plank with strength through the pistol grip; said director insisted on a new layout giving 4 stocks per plank, to increase profit, but with no strenth in the grip. The trigger was abysmal and two of us did a decent design, but it cost a few pence more so it was dumped, cost again.
Sorry guys

Pleased to see you back on here and hoping things are getting better for you.