Do new HW springers still twang?

[C3PO_1]

I think they all shoot ok and the kits pretty much just quieten things, they only need a decent guide and not to chop springs and not finish them, never understood why they don't do those last bits on otherwise excellent guns.

Exactly! Why not do this?

[DJP]

The last couple I bought ('35E and '50) didn't but then again - Im just naturally lucky and some say good looking.

ATB
Ian

Or just deaf.

[zephyr]

Earlier this year I bought two HW30 rifles, a UK spec HW30SF and a German ‘F’ spec HW30S. The obvious difference is the spring and the power difference (although not that big a difference as the HW30S gave more than the ‘F’ 7.5J limit). I’m not a spring gun fan, but both these seemed ok, without any obvious twanging (to my ears). Both reasonably calm, but then nowhere near 12fpe. Lovely to shoot with open sights, standing unsupported 6 and 10m. It is just a perception, reliant on memory, but after 2-3000 pellets they seem to be even smoother and pleasant to shoot (clearly not PCP levels of recoil) - do we jump in and fit a kit without letting the springers bed-in?

[MartynB]

Or just deaf.

[evert]

It is just a perception, reliant on memory, but after 2-3000 pellets they seem to be even smoother and pleasant to shoot (clearly not PCP levels of recoil) - do we jump in and fit a kit without letting the springers bed-in?

Yes.
Because "bedding in" without a proper rear guide and tophat often means "bending in"- when the spring gets a bit bent it fits tighter on the rear guide, and vibrations get somewhat dampened.