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    What is a good pump for HW100 - Total Newbie question

    Hi, Hands up I know nothing about pre charged airguns - always used springers.
    I inherited a HW100 carbine from my great uncle about four years ago. Which is a revelation - superb airgun. The air bottle has now run out and its difficult to find anyone to charge it in the Welshpool, Oswestry region. So I was thinkng of getting a pump when funds allow.
    Which one should I get that is good quality and do the job. Will my existing charging cable fit and any other advice please.
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    The two leading brands in airgun stirrup pumps are Hills and Fx.

    I have had an Fx stage 3 for over 10 years I even fill my Gunpower Stealth bottles that are 500cc. It has worked well and I have checked inside air cylinders and no sign of corrosion with long term use. So I would happily recommend an Fx stage 3.

    It was also bought from a member on here so its secondhand.

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    Get a cylinder to save time an energy! I fill my 7 litre 300 bar one up for under a fiver a year, you just need to find a good dive bottle shop.
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    best pump for a PCP... the big f*off one at your local dive shop; use it to fill up your cylinder
    Always looking for any cheap, interesting, knackered "project" guns. Thanks, JB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silva View Post
    Hi, Hands up I know nothing about pre charged airguns - always used springers.
    I inherited a HW100 carbine from my great uncle about four years ago. Which is a revelation - superb airgun. The air bottle has now run out and its difficult to find anyone to charge it in the Welshpool, Oswestry region. So I was thinkng of getting a pump when funds allow.
    Which one should I get that is good quality and do the job. Will my existing charging cable fit and any other advice please.
    Cheers
    Odds are your cylinder is now out of test date, there should be a sticker on it with a 'due test date' if not the date of manufacturer test is stamped on to the neck.
    As you already have the cyl it makes far more sense to get it tested & filled, ask google/RFD's/other shooters where they get theirs tested & filled.

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    as said the fx are good, not tried the hills, but in all honesty its a shed load of effort, i gave up after two fills and went back to a dive bottle

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    I had a Hills pump when I had my Falcon FN19 years ago, since I recently bought a HW100 I bought a bottle too, much easier, wouldn't like to have to go back to pumping!
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    Hi,

    I've got a Hill Mk4 that I bought at the start of lockdown because both my 3ltr and 7ltr bottles were nearly empty. I don't have any problem filling my R10 or HW101.

    That being said, there was a thread recently, where quite a few people had good experiences with £30 pumps from the auction site.


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    Hill pump

    i have a Hill Mk3 pump, pumping is easy, especially on a HW carbine 105cc cylinder
    lard ass beer swilling couch potatoes will tell you to get a dive cylinder
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    I have a Hills pump with associated dry pack. Fills my HW100 up no problem and you get a good workout at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bossmugler View Post
    ...you get a good workout at the same time.
    Exactly!

    It's a question of converting delicious Donner Kebabs to High Pressure Air - and not lard.

    I wasn't going to pipe up and make that point but have to agree with someone who has.

    I was at a friends place who bought a used pump for his rifle and I gave him a free one (if you'll pardon the expression). Yes I was sweating with the effort by the time the gun was filled but I made a mental note that it was not too much work ....and cheap.

    Needs dry air, and that's what I don't understand the reality of tho.
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    Thank you all for taking the time to reply. How many pumps will it take to fill the hw100 carbine air cylinder please ? Suppose there is no way of manually pumping the bottle then
    Last edited by silva; 30-09-2020 at 04:05 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silva View Post
    Thank you all for taking the time to reply. How many pumps will it take to fill the hw100 air cylinder please ?
    About enough to need a shower afterward.

    Edit: I think my mate had an FAC Airwolf, a job with the power display and auto-power control. Not HW100. It was a while back I don't remember exactly what it was.

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    Last edited by Antoni; 30-09-2020 at 03:28 PM. Reason: Not HW
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    Quote Originally Posted by silva View Post
    Thank you all for taking the time to reply. How many pumps will it take to fill the hw100 air cylinder please ? Suppose there is no way of manually pumping the cylinder then
    Depends how big the HW cylinder is and how much is in it already. For example, when I filled my HW110 with a Hill Mk4 pump it took over a hundred pumps. I split that into 40 at a time before having a rest! Needed it but then I am 70 & 10 stone wet through!
    Just bought a Nomad 2 which takes 3 minutes to fill a FX Wildcat from 150 to 210 but they ain't cheap. Still apparently we rich pensioners can afford them

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    Quote Originally Posted by silva View Post
    Thank you all for taking the time to reply. How many pumps will it take to fill the hw100 carbine air cylinder please ? Suppose there is no way of manually pumping the bottle then
    Hi,

    My HW101 is a carbine, to refill from 100bar to 190bar takes about 50 pumps.

    If you go nice and steady and use proper technique you won't even get out of breath.


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