Curious about the Webley C1 stock

[Muskett]

When people were good shooting with open sights they were fast with it. The straight stock is a boon to fast point shooting. Moving targets weren't out of the question either.
In those days a "solid" hit was enough, and then ring the neck. Thats if the farm dog didn't get there first. People just weren't as squeamish as today.

Webley were also playing with their Telescan Scout Sight. The system works, but not with the cheapo telescopic sight that Webley used.
The Single Point Sight even had its advocates.

The C1 was to cater for fast farmyard shooting. However, progress was going to heavy deliberate telescopic long range sniping; read HW77 with Moonlighter scope. But at least the C1 didn't need to shoot accurately beyond 20m, just get a solid hit, which was about Webley's build quality.

Now C1 would be considered a fast pointy plinker. Which is what they are. They were inexpensive which was the other great feature.

[Troubledshooter]

Here's the C1 stock:

[averageplinker]

Roughing out is easy. Inletting for the action, trigger and fixing points on the other hand....

[jirushi]

Hi, I made this stock for my QB78 a few years ago, inspired by my C1.
I had set myself the task to do it in one day. Late at night I did need a few stiff drinks against the pain in my arms lol.
IMO a normal grip is more comfortable, but I like the style.



I also have this one. An Ultishot stock with an action from Titan/Falcon parts.

[Gamocfx]

Oh wow! I am so glad I asked about this gun. I never noticed its release so I had no idea what it was about. The farmyard and quick shooting makes perfect sense, air rifle shooting did indeed develop into sniping... and yes I think we have all got a bit perfectionist with this.

Louisvanhovell I am blown away with your stock... this is what I wondered, if people had done this to other guns... amazing work and pictures saved. I also cannot believe that someone could get hold of three of these rifles as they are pretty rare around my area, I never see anyone with them at all.

Thanks for sharing the information guys this has made my day.

[mallyally]

found a picture of some of mine !

[Gamocfx]

Oh Mally!! The rifle with the barrel weight on... its airgunning porn! Seriously though they are a very unique looking gun. Do you still shoot them? Also good skills having two!?

I feel like an amateur-I berate myself for the measly amount of guns that I own but it seems every member on here owns several of every type known to man.

Picture saved for reference purposes.

[mallyally]

Oh Mally!! The rifle with the barrel weight on... its airgunning porn! Seriously though they are a very unique looking gun. Do you still shoot them? Also good skills having two!?

I feel like an amateur-I berate myself for the measly amount of guns that I own but it seems every member on here owns several of every type known to man.

Picture saved for reference purposes.

I no longer own them mate ! I had tons of webleys at one time now I got a Osprey that's all

The one with the Barrel weight I spent hours getting right it was a 177 fitted with a genuine Venom kit made for the vulcan and a chambers trigger unit to give 2 stage the other was a 22 and was perfect from the off I think my mate still has one of them although I forget which one

[Gamocfx]

Not only do people have more guns than me they have more talent! Fitting a venom kit and a 2 stage trigger... my mind blown. The gun must have shot as good as it looks. One thing the collectors on here have in common is that we seem to let guns come and go once we have had them a while.

Maybe I wont press the brother in law into making a stock-just let the wife know that more guns will be arriving eventually.

[MDriskill]

I've had a couple of C1's in the past. Loved the idea of the design, but found the stock quite uncomfortable. As Geezer mentioned, the grip angle and reach to the trigger blade don't quite mesh somehow.

The C1 stock has very little drop at the heel - very effective in controlling recoil in such a light and powerful springer (i.e., the recoil comes straight into your shoulder, reducing muzzle lift). But in order to do this, the grip area has to be nearly horizontal. The stock may have been "inspired" by the old lever-actions, but is not a real copy, as those old stocks have significantly more drop at the heel and thus more slope to the grip.

The last version of the C1, with heavier barrel, and more curved and set back trigger blade from the third-gen Vulcan family, was significantly better. But still tough on my wrists.

So when making a new stock...my advice would be to keep a careful eye on heights, angles, trigger position, and other ergonomic details.