Curious about the Webley C1 stock

[Geezer]

I've had a couple of C1's in the past. Loved the idea of the design, but found the stock quite uncomfortable.

The C1 stock has very little drop at the heel, which is very effective in controlling recoil in such a light and powerful springer (I.e., the recoil comes straight into your shoulder, which helps in not lifting the muzzle). But in order to do this, the grip area has to be nearly horizontal. The stock may have been inspired by the old lever-actions, but those old stocks have significantly more drop at the heel, and more slope to the grip.

The last version of the C1, with the curved, more set back trigger blade, was much better but still tough on my wrists.

So when making a new stock...my advice would be to keep a careful eye on heights, angles, trigger position, and other ergonomic details.

Exactly my experience, and mine is an early one with the straighter trigger blade.

Gamocfx: the main challenge in building a “bitsa” C1 may be less finding a stock, then getting hold of a 14” narrow barrel, as opposed to the 17.5” narrow barrel used on the Mk1 Vulcan and the Victor or the later thicker barrel 19” on the Vulcan or 11” (plus muzzle weight) on the Mk3 Vulcan carbines. The last would be a good choice in many ways, but good luck finding one.

[Gamocfx]

Thanks for the advice Chaps, I am not really a purist as regards details... it seems a stock ,ay have been found, it will be a nice project over winter. As for an action there is no rush-will any Vulcan fit this? I will keep an eye on fleabay for further parts...

[the logun-ator]

Thanks for the advice Chaps, I am not really a purist as regards details... it seems a stock ,ay have been found, it will be a nice project over winter. As for an action there is no rush-will any Vulcan fit this? I will keep an eye on fleabay for further parts...

yea any model vulcan,and the earlier hawks as well,only 25mm bore though so it will be restricted to around 10ftlbs

[Gamocfx]

Thanks Logun, as you can see my knowledge is limited! There is a Vulcan and bits for sale on that auction site at the moment..... though I may try local contacts first.

[evert]

Thanks for the advice Chaps, I am not really a purist as regards details... it seems a stock ,ay have been found, it will be a nice project over winter. As for an action there is no rush-will any Vulcan fit this? I will keep an eye on fleabay for further parts...

Ther are two different back blocks for the action, one is the square Excel/Victor/C1 type, and the other is the rounded Vulcan type.

[Gamocfx]

Thanks evert, I really had no idea, I will have to get a book or something. Already this is complicated before it starts with different barrel widths and now block shapes!

[Geezer]

The C1 uses the flat block from the Victor.

As you can see in mallyally’s picture, early ones had no safety catch, later ones did.

Early ones have the near-straight trigger (same as the early Vulcan). Later ones have the curly trigger seen on later Vulcans.

[Gamocfx]

Thanks Geezer, I think I will use what I can find and call it close enough. As a casual admirer of he design I am sure that this will be fine and I have wanted one since I first saw it. Its just surprising that so many people seem to have or had one! Makes one wonder what else is out there!

Just a quick question for the experts on Webley... are Webley air rifles/pistols dateable by their number? I have lists for BSA and Weirauch so did Webley do the same?

Thanks in advance.