Curious about the Webley C1 stock

[Gamocfx]

Oh wow! I am so glad I asked about this gun. I never noticed its release so I had no idea what it was about. The farmyard and quick shooting makes perfect sense, air rifle shooting did indeed develop into sniping... and yes I think we have all got a bit perfectionist with this.

Louisvanhovell I am blown away with your stock... this is what I wondered, if people had done this to other guns... amazing work and pictures saved. I also cannot believe that someone could get hold of three of these rifles as they are pretty rare around my area, I never see anyone with them at all.

Thanks for sharing the information guys this has made my day.

[mallyally]

found a picture of some of mine !

[Gamocfx]

Oh Mally!! The rifle with the barrel weight on... its airgunning porn! Seriously though they are a very unique looking gun. Do you still shoot them? Also good skills having two!?

I feel like an amateur-I berate myself for the measly amount of guns that I own but it seems every member on here owns several of every type known to man.

Picture saved for reference purposes.

[mallyally]

Oh Mally!! The rifle with the barrel weight on... its airgunning porn! Seriously though they are a very unique looking gun. Do you still shoot them? Also good skills having two!?

I feel like an amateur-I berate myself for the measly amount of guns that I own but it seems every member on here owns several of every type known to man.

Picture saved for reference purposes.

I no longer own them mate ! I had tons of webleys at one time now I got a Osprey that's all

The one with the Barrel weight I spent hours getting right it was a 177 fitted with a genuine Venom kit made for the vulcan and a chambers trigger unit to give 2 stage the other was a 22 and was perfect from the off I think my mate still has one of them although I forget which one

[Gamocfx]

Not only do people have more guns than me they have more talent! Fitting a venom kit and a 2 stage trigger... my mind blown. The gun must have shot as good as it looks. One thing the collectors on here have in common is that we seem to let guns come and go once we have had them a while.

Maybe I wont press the brother in law into making a stock-just let the wife know that more guns will be arriving eventually.

[Geezer]

I’ve never really got on with mine. I don’t like the relationship between the straight grip and the trigger, which feels awkward. And the balance feels top-heavy, quite unlike a god shotgun or a Winchester 94.

My Tracker or my BSF B55 do a much better job at the short, light, carbine thing.

[vintage]

I had a Beeman C1 carbine in the early 90's. It was my main rifle at my gun club back then. It had awesome power for such a small rifle. The recoil a touch heavy. The shotgun style stock was a collaboration between Beeman and Webley. As you know the C1 was basically a Vulcan in a different stock.

[MDriskill]

I've had a couple of C1's in the past. Loved the idea of the design, but found the stock quite uncomfortable. As Geezer mentioned, the grip angle and reach to the trigger blade don't quite mesh somehow.

The C1 stock has very little drop at the heel - very effective in controlling recoil in such a light and powerful springer (i.e., the recoil comes straight into your shoulder, reducing muzzle lift). But in order to do this, the grip area has to be nearly horizontal. The stock may have been "inspired" by the old lever-actions, but is not a real copy, as those old stocks have significantly more drop at the heel and thus more slope to the grip.

The last version of the C1, with heavier barrel, and more curved and set back trigger blade from the third-gen Vulcan family, was significantly better. But still tough on my wrists.

So when making a new stock...my advice would be to keep a careful eye on heights, angles, trigger position, and other ergonomic details.

[Geezer]

I've had a couple of C1's in the past. Loved the idea of the design, but found the stock quite uncomfortable.

The C1 stock has very little drop at the heel, which is very effective in controlling recoil in such a light and powerful springer (I.e., the recoil comes straight into your shoulder, which helps in not lifting the muzzle). But in order to do this, the grip area has to be nearly horizontal. The stock may have been inspired by the old lever-actions, but those old stocks have significantly more drop at the heel, and more slope to the grip.

The last version of the C1, with the curved, more set back trigger blade, was much better but still tough on my wrists.

So when making a new stock...my advice would be to keep a careful eye on heights, angles, trigger position, and other ergonomic details.

Exactly my experience, and mine is an early one with the straighter trigger blade.

Gamocfx: the main challenge in building a “bitsa” C1 may be less finding a stock, then getting hold of a 14” narrow barrel, as opposed to the 17.5” narrow barrel used on the Mk1 Vulcan and the Victor or the later thicker barrel 19” on the Vulcan or 11” (plus muzzle weight) on the Mk3 Vulcan carbines. The last would be a good choice in many ways, but good luck finding one.

[Gamocfx]

Thanks for the advice Chaps, I am not really a purist as regards details... it seems a stock ,ay have been found, it will be a nice project over winter. As for an action there is no rush-will any Vulcan fit this? I will keep an eye on fleabay for further parts...