I must admit I've not had to source screws for later guns,up to mk6 meteor, 2 and 4ba used.
I must admit I've not had to source screws for later guns,up to mk6 meteor, 2 and 4ba used.
I can confirm that my Superstar, Supersport, Goldstar and even mk1 Lightning all have a 2BA x 1.5” rear guard screw. Front stock screws are all M4. It’s not uncommon to see different fasteners mixed and matched, Webley did exactly the same.
Cheers
Greg
Well, thank you all for taking such trouble. I appreciate it. I wonder which thread the Knibbs part is.
I am warming to the idea of retapping the thread now....
Cheers, Phil
Measuring the screws and relating to the BA thread system got me confused, so I had to learn more about it.
Its a British standard, so I expected the pitch to be imperial - but none of my imperial thread gauges matched the pitch of the early Supersport/Superstar rear screw. (clearly not a 30TPI, almost a 32TPI). The closest thread gauge I found is a 0.8 mm pitch - on a British thread system???
Time for some googling!
This page cleared up my confusion:
https://journeymans-workshop.uk/baandme.php
So, the table lists the 2BA as .185" diameter x 31.4" TPI!!! That does not really sound logical..
But the text goes on to explain:
"British Association threads were a metric thread system devised for small screws. Originally included even smaller sizes intended for use in watchmaking but these have been superceded by specialist horological thread series. Not metric like you might expect, but with diameters determined by a factor proportional to a power of the logarithm to the base 10 of the thread pitch in millimetres. Hence the rather strange mix of metric and imperial in the above table."
Aha! Dividing 25.4mm (1") by 31.4 TPI gets you 0.809, so the close to 0.8mm pitch starts to make sense.
The 4.6mm I measured with worn calipers is close to the listed .185", which translates to 4.7mm.
Its a confusing (when compared to more recent thread standards) system, but the 2BA really is close to a M4.7x0.8 thread.
Which is good for re-tapping to a M5x0.8 thread!
Last edited by evert; 31-10-2020 at 07:51 AM.
Having stripped the relevant block out, I find a 2BA screw fits. Why a 2BA would not fit with the block assembled on the rifle in the first place I do not know. if this thread is really 2BA then it could explain the untidy appearance of the guard screw fitted. Maybe this screw was forced into a 2BA thread???
Whatever ... onwards.
I continued my look at the rifle by stripping it. Not too bad really but the spring guide was a pretty loose fit in the spring and the large circular end broken off. New guide is being made. Small O ring breech washer was somewhat damaged BS 010 seems to fit OK in the recess but I do not have the larger O ring. I think it is OK though. Mainspring seems fine... must measure it, as it the piston seal. I will also add a piston sleeve.
So next ... trigger reassembly. Why do I expect coffee to be in demand?
At least it is raining here so I would not be outside anyway.
Cheers, Phil