I cannot see how it would not be in everybody's interests to respond as individuals to this consultation.Originally Posted by JB101
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I cannot see how it would not be in everybody's interests to respond as individuals to this consultation.
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Please take the time to fill it in, it's our future, and if we don't have a say then we can hardly complain later.
James
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Filled it in, but until reading it fully, didn't know/realise that a mini air rifle range (like you get at a fair ground) are the same as a mini .22 rimfire range - no regulations on who can run them
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Having read through the entire document, by & large I think it's extremely fair, with most of the extra measures suggested being common sense.
About the only item I don't like is raising the age for airguns on private land,
anyone who grows up on a farm knows that youngsters with airguns do a lot of vermin control, because of farm animals they are invariably well trained about safety especially proper back stops backstops.
The only serious problem I see with UK firearms rules is the difficulty in youngsters getting proper training, largely due to the paranoia of non shooters,
that situation has yet to be addressed, & should be asap.
I will be responding & highlighting the final point, to prevent accidents you need to train in the safe handling of firearms.
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Must admit to not liking the idea of keeping the highest power guns at a range, to me, that's just asking for break-ins
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Very good point, as I doubt many ranges are manned 24/7.
Plus I expect anyone wanting such a gun could/would obtain it from Eastern Europe anyway.
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To me the loophole on mini ranges should be closed - it's bizarre that you can buy 20 full bore guns and thousands of rounds of ammo by saying your running a range, yet you can't buy a .22LR for pest control without getting an FAC and being security checked by the police
I also think young people should be supervised on private land - because the vast majority of "private land" used for this is a garden, and not a farm or estate. Making farms/estates exempt for the purpose of pest control would be an option, but as it is, half of all injuries are by unsupervised kids, typically in back yards. You need to remember most of us reading this are on a forum because we are interested and enthusiastic about air guns, we care and are on the whole very responsible - this is not the typical case of Joe public handing an air gun to his kids and going to watch the match while they shoot the neighbours cat unsupervised
Some of the extra security measures for the high powered rifles are just stupid - there have been none used in any crime ever in the UK - this is just a political soap box shout out and a waste of time. To suggest we should be taking actions like "putting shutters on all doors and windows" where guns are kept is ridiculous - you cant do this to your house!!!! This is paramount to a ban
So do read the details and make your own minds up, and fill in the form to have your say.
As @angrybear mentions - training is a great things, especially with the young, but other than us do this responsibly with our own kids or in our own clubs I don't know how that could be put into legislation?
James
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Leaving aside views on the 'appropriateness' of the law relating to miniature rifle ranges, the term miniature rifle range relates to rimfire rifles not fullbores.
As I understand it there are a number of miniature rifle ranges that have operated for many years without incident, unfortunately though there have been instances where this concession not loophole has been abused.
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Then your mistaken. The security at a club is typically higher than at a home Inc. alarms and secured testing.
Many clubs do hold weapons on site....either the clubs rifles and members equipment too. Monitored systems allow for visual and audio confirmation as well so police can respond with ARU's if required and avoids members having to go on site.
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