Crosman 600 Boxes - Different Markets

[Mark D]

That well known 'AirgunFixer' from leafy Surrey has a 600 box that is marked V600

Anybody know what the 'V' was for ?
[IMG]000_1638 by Mark Davis, on Flickr[/IMG]

[IMG]000_1636 by Mark Davis, on Flickr[/IMG]

[Troubledshooter]

I haven't a clue as to what the 'V' stands for, but I see it's a different style 'Rocket' box to the one I have and the other shown in the photographs, which have lift off lids and a 'Fairport, New York' address, whereas the one with a 'V' prefixing the '600' has a folding lid with a 'Dunnville Ontario' address.
It would be great if someone has a more definitive answer.

[Lawrie Amatruda]

I was hoping someone from across the pond (USA or Canada ?) may have been able to shed a light on this one
Cheers, Lawrie

[edbear2]

From a Crosman forum;


''From talking to former employees, they did make complete guns there. They had complete machining facilities for a number of models. Barrel blanks were supplied by the U.S. parent company, but the machining operations were done at Dunnville. Many of the small parts that were subcontracted out by the parent company, were also provided to Dunnville, so while not entirely stand alone, they did do a fair bit of the manufacturing.The models made in Dunnville are distinctly roll-marked to that effect.
Their hey-day was the era of the 180, 160, 140, and 400 rifles, and the 130, 150, and 38x pistols. I have seen some of these with the distinctive Dunnville markings, but not all, so some of them could have been just assembled here as well. There is a variant of the type 2 150 that by all acounts was only built in the Dunnville plant - The barrel was mounted to the gun with the plastic spacer, like on the 180 or 1400 - the barrel had no concave cut on the underside. Dean Fletcher was very interested when I sent him pics of mine - he was unaware of this particular variant. They are not that common, so I don't think that they were produced in large numbers.
Near the end of the Dunnville operation, they basically just packaged the guns for the Canadian market (bilingual packaging and instructions)and then stuck a small, foil, "Crosman Canada" tag on the gun.''




So perhaps the packaging difference is explained by the above, It's just cardboard boxes at the end of the day, probably flexograpic rubber dies souced locally (I worked in this industry for a short time), so all the info is on there, but the design slightly different.

Total guess but makes some sense (to me anyhow).

ATB, Ed

[Lawrie Amatruda]

From a Crosman forum;


''From talking to former employees, they did make complete guns there. They had complete machining facilities for a number of models. Barrel blanks were supplied by the U.S. parent company, but the machining operations were done at Dunnville. Many of the small parts that were subcontracted out by the parent company, were also provided to Dunnville, so while not entirely stand alone, they did do a fair bit of the manufacturing.The models made in Dunnville are distinctly roll-marked to that effect.
Their hey-day was the era of the 180, 160, 140, and 400 rifles, and the 130, 150, and 38x pistols. I have seen some of these with the distinctive Dunnville markings, but not all, so some of them could have been just assembled here as well. There is a variant of the type 2 150 that by all acounts was only built in the Dunnville plant - The barrel was mounted to the gun with the plastic spacer, like on the 180 or 1400 - the barrel had no concave cut on the underside. Dean Fletcher was very interested when I sent him pics of mine - he was unaware of this particular variant. They are not that common, so I don't think that they were produced in large numbers.
Near the end of the Dunnville operation, they basically just packaged the guns for the Canadian market (bilingual packaging and instructions)and then stuck a small, foil, "Crosman Canada" tag on the gun.''




So perhaps the packaging difference is explained by the above, It's just cardboard boxes at the end of the day, probably flexograpic rubber dies souced locally (I worked in this industry for a short time), so all the info is on there, but the design slightly different.

Total guess but makes some sense (to me anyhow).

ATB, Ed

Hi Ed,

That information makes sense, but I have been unable to find any information on what the V refers to (V600) on the end of the odd box that I have, inside the box it has the bilingual instructions and a list of Canadian Crosman service stations but no insert so not able to get any clue from that.

Cheers, Lawrie

[--ped--]

i've not seen the v before either
i have a couple of Dunnville marked guns (2nd model 130 and a 4th model 140)
a mate works for crosman i'll ask him if he can shed any light on it