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Thread: A Question on the Predom Lucznik KI 170 Air Pistol

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    Yes, I have a book called Gwoździa, I'll take pictures in the evening. We have a Wz1970 from the same period. Yours is nicer condition, mine is often used. From January 2022 he will shoot in MPL 6yd
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    Quote Originally Posted by ogilkes View Post
    Some really useful links. Thank you!
    I'm glad I could help
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    Quote Originally Posted by marboc View Post
    Yes, I have a book called Gwoździa, I'll take pictures in the evening. We have a Wz1970 from the same period. Yours is nicer condition, mine is often used. From January 2022 he will shoot in MPL 6yd
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    Thank you Marboc,

    Ja też pozdrawiam

    John M
    Currently looking for Baikal Makarov pistols with the following prefixes to the serial number: 98, T01, T09, T21, T22
    Prefer boxed or cased but will consider loose examples too.

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    Polska broń pneumatyczna i bocznego zapłonu. Zbigniew Gwóźdź
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    Thank you Marboc,

    There is some fascinating reading there. I'm looking forward to it!

    Kind regards,

    John M
    Currently looking for Baikal Makarov pistols with the following prefixes to the serial number: 98, T01, T09, T21, T22
    Prefer boxed or cased but will consider loose examples too.

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    There are many conspiracy theories about the numbering of the pistol, the truth is, one letter export, two letters country, three letters factory shop FB Radom. I described the rifle numbering here:
    https://wiatrowkizbieracza.home.blog...nik-numeracja/

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    Quote Originally Posted by marboc View Post
    There are many conspiracy theories about the numbering of the pistol, the truth is, one letter export, two letters country, three letters factory shop FB Radom. I described the rifle numbering here:
    https://wiatrowkizbieracza.home.blog...nik-numeracja/
    Hello Marboc,

    Thanks again. This is really interesting and important material.

    Do you know the source of the information concerning pistol numbering that you mention: one letter export, two letters country and three letters factory shop? They have always puzzled me.

    Kind regards,

    John
    Currently looking for Baikal Makarov pistols with the following prefixes to the serial number: 98, T01, T09, T21, T22
    Prefer boxed or cased but will consider loose examples too.

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    Hello, for many years I have been collecting all the information about the encountered Archers .. I talk to their owners. The first owners are special delicacies. I also have contacts with the largest collectors in Poland. There are former employees of FB Radom, this is the most interesting and little-known information.
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    Here is a comparison of Łucznik class 170 - Walther LP 53
    https://wiatrowkizbieracza.home.blog...ucznik-kl-170/
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    Quote Originally Posted by marboc View Post
    There are many conspiracy theories about the numbering of the pistol, the truth is, one letter export, two letters country, three letters factory shop FB Radom. I described the rifle numbering here:
    https://wiatrowkizbieracza.home.blog...nik-numeracja/
    Hello again Marboc,

    If it helps with your own research, the list below contains the letter prefix code and serial number of the KI 170 pistols I found reference to or examined while undertaking my own research around a year ago.

    1972
    HK 0271 (Allegro Polish auction)
    HK 1135 (John Griffiths archives)

    1973
    HS 0350 (Gunauction.com)
    HS 1269 (Czech website)
    HS 3874 (JC Militaria)
    AHS 5455 (Polish auction)
    BHS 3701 (Polish website)
    CHS 3438 (B/am a/f 11/19)
    XHS 5316 (JC Militaria)

    1974
    KG 1269 (T Dyson 12/20)
    KG 1445 (on line auction)
    KG 1669 (ex JM collection)
    NP 6497 ()
    S 2124 (VAG – Ex DC collection)
    S 2770 – Tim Dyson 2020

    1975
    NP 3350 (Armslist)
    NP 4047 (Allegro Polish auction)
    NP 6614 (Airgun Enthusiast Channel)
    NP 7103 (Auction Zip)
    NP 7508 (The AK Files)
    Z 2170 (B/ham a/f 11/19)
    Z 5675 (GTA forum)
    Z 5955 (Kirklees guns)
    Z 6200 (JM collection)
    Z 6222 (free ads)

    1976
    AB 2320 (Bombatyka 2020)
    AB 3821 (Polish website)
    AB 4169 (proxibid)
    AB 5153 (Polish auction)
    AB 5210 (CO2air.de)
    AB 5799 (Polish auction)

    P 5657 (Guntrader sale)
    P 8842 (Flickr).

    1977
    CR 2334 (VAG)
    CR 2556 (Polish auction)
    CR 2594 (Polish auction)
    CR 2747 (Polish auction)
    CR 3939 (Polish auction)
    CR 4152 (slogun)
    CR 4248 (Polish auction)
    CR 7360 (JM collection)
    D 179 (Airgun.org.ru)
    D 2778 (JC Militaria)
    HK 0993 (Polish auction)


    Kind regards,

    John
    Currently looking for Baikal Makarov pistols with the following prefixes to the serial number: 98, T01, T09, T21, T22
    Prefer boxed or cased but will consider loose examples too.

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