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    micky2 is offline The collector formerly known as micky
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmieDee View Post
    Take a closer look at the barrel markings on the bright steel one. It’s clearly hand engraved with one of those vibrating engraver tools. Awful job. Both were on gunstar recently. Claiming one to be nickel plated. Looks like bare steel to me. The other I doubt was originally 6 1/3. You have to wonder if they have been drilled out.... but why?
    To make them seem more rare, to get a better price.

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    My gut feeling is that the 6/13 IMPORT one is genuine. I've no evidence to support that. It's just a gut feeling.

    The bright steel one though I have my doubts. Perhaps it was so badly corroded that not only was it polished externally but also the barrel may have been drilled out to 6mm and finally hand engraved with an electro-mechanical engraving tool. It's definitely not stamped.

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    https://images.auctionet.com/uploads...c91c4643db.jpg

    https://www.vintageairgunsgallery.co...0d5e1fdd4a.jpg

    My gut feeling tells me "not original".
    Compare the mark with the (two lines) auctionet and vintage airgun. I see a "c and 7" on the 6 1/3 barrel for cal. 177. In connection with the piston joint, look at screw. This are in the right position.
    I leave everything else to your imagination.
    Last edited by Suhl; 08-02-2021 at 12:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suhl View Post
    https://images.auctionet.com/uploads...c91c4643db.jpg

    https://www.vintageairgunsgallery.co...0d5e1fdd4a.jpg

    My gut feeling tells me "not original".
    Compare the mark with the (two lines) auctionet and vintage airgun. I see a "c and 7" on the 6 1/3 barrel for cal. 177. In connection with the piston joint, look at screw. This are in the right position.
    I leave everything else to your imagination.
    Not sure what you mean. Could you explain please?
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    Danny, if you go back to John's post #38 above, the enlarged view of the markings definitely looks like just under the '6 1/3' there are faint remnants of a 'C' and further on a '7'. I noticed this before but thought I might be hallucinating; now upon reflection I think not. In addition, that close-up changes my opinion on originality of the '6 1/3' mark, just a bit irregular in spacing and uniformity to be a factory job.

    Don R.

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    Sorry if some things are not understandable. I use a translator app.

    I wanted to draw attention to the position of the markings. Also the type of writing ... to me it all looks attached afterwards. Maybe the barrel bores were ruined, nothing surprises me when it comes to profit.

    Suhl
    Last edited by Suhl; 08-02-2021 at 08:43 PM.

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    Ah, I see what you mean. Thanks both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suhl View Post
    Sorry if some things are not understandable. I use a translator app.

    I wanted to draw attention to the position of the markings. Also the type of writing ... to me it all looks attached afterwards. Maybe the barrel bores were ruined, nothing surprises me when it comes to profit.

    Suhl
    You have good eyes

    I think you are right.
    Morally flawed

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    micky2 is offline The collector formerly known as micky
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suhl View Post
    Sorry if some things are not understandable. I use a translator app.

    I wanted to draw attention to the position of the markings. Also the type of writing ... to me it all looks attached afterwards. Maybe the barrel bores were ruined, nothing surprises me when it comes to profit.

    Suhl
    I have just had a good look at the stamping on both guns. and the number 6 is different on both of them. and the one with 6mm just dosen't look like a right stamping to me. and as you say what people will do for money

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