Spring pistols, fight or not fight the recoil ?

[vestlenning]

My diana , gamo falcon & gat are a pita to get used to

... but when you (sort of) get there it was worth it!

[Modski66]

I had a Tempest in 0.22, but just could not shoot it straight, it always seemed to be torqueing to the right, but I knew someone with a Turkish 0.177 model who said he had no problem.
For a brief time I had a 1950's Senior with a slant grip in 0.22 - could not shoot that for toffee either, but now I have a 1966 Premier in 0.177 and it shoots perfectly straight.
I did have a theory that there is something going on with the longer lock-time for the 0.22 models, but I have recently acquired a Hurricane in 0.22, and this shoots straight. Does that extra mass at the back end make a difference?
The Senior trigger was very heavy, which is never good for holding a pistol on target, the Premier and Hurricane both have lovely triggers, but then so did the Tempest!

When I work it out, I will let you know...

[Geezer]

I think this is a “what works for you” thing.

With a two-hand grip on a springer, I’ve often had good results with a fairly weak strong hand hold and a firmer one from the support hand. That may sound and feel a bit weird, but it works.

The Webley springers are hard to do well with with a loose hold, but not impossible. I think I favour a medium hold. But that may be a cop-out. I’ve had some good moments with them, but will never claim to have really sussed out what works best.

I too have found (unscientifically) that Webley over levers are more accurate in .177” than .22” and wondered why. Is it barrel/ammo quality and compatibility? Barrel rigidity? Or as Modski suggests the shorter barrel time - or the different spring-surge characteristics of a pellet with a lower start pressure?

Finally, in my experience the BSA Scorpion shoots terribly if you grip it as if it was a .50” Desert Eagle, but shoots really well with a gentle two-handed hold. Ditto the HW45.

[hwtyger]

The .22 holes are just bigger
I own several Webley pistols. Tempests in both calibers, Typhoon in .177, Hurricane in .22.
And all are very accurate with the right pellet.
I think the difficulty some people may have with the .22 is that they keep looking for/shooting 5.56 pellets cause thats what it says on the barrel.
I tried 5.55 FTT, nope. It liked 5.53 though. And the other .22 likes JSB.

[averageplinker]

..... but shoots really well with a gentle two-handed hold. Ditto the HW45.

This is the grip I have found to work best with my HW45 too.
Rich.

[Reevo17]

This is the grip I have found to work best with my HW45 too.
Rich.

Yup.

I used to shoot a 45 in the UBC comp. this involves one card two handed and one card one hand hold.

Two handed Was firm but not strangling, to get anywhere near the same POI one handed I had to strangle it. It was a struggle to master the change of hold.

Like rifles, springers need a consistent hold and you need to try a few to work out what works well. I’ve never shot an lp53 or predom copy but I can imagine they take it one step further with the vertical recoil motion!

[guitardan]

Consistency is the key, doesn't matter how you hold so long as yer consistent, a different hold, no matter how slightly different will give a different poi, in my opinion..