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    Hi I've been down this route also, got a hill's pump and only good if desperate, too long to pump and slow. But couldn't afford the top end. The wife bought me a Chinese model on eb*y 193545993913 the reviews seem very good and I think theres reviews on YouTube.

    Anyway not tried it yet as I had a foot op that's prevent be looking at it properly, but I've 3 dive cylinders to fill and I'm not doing them by hand

    If anyone has any experience and tweaks on the Chinese models it'll be good to have some advice prior to starting the process other than read the manual.

    Anyway hope it helps.

    Atb

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    I like the look of the Hills, but at £850 it's lot of money and I'd really like to hear from someone who's used one for a while..

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    Chap on the R7OC has one he's extremely happy with it.

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    Hill EC3000

    I have been using a Hill compressor since last September, well impressed. Topping up smallish bottles, no problem.
    After using a chinese compressor for 3 years the Hill is like a Rolls Royce.
    Pity about the price rise though.

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    Hill compressor - additional filter needed?

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    I have been using a Hill compressor since last September, well impressed. Topping up smallish bottles, no problem.
    After using a chinese compressor for 3 years the Hill is like a Rolls Royce.
    Pity about the price rise though.
    I'm thinking of getting an EC3000 and looking on YouTube it seems a number of owners have fitted a second filter pack on the output hose (looks like a Chinese made oil / water filter). Are these necessary ? I thought the Hill had a moisture trap built in ?

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    Compressor

    I’ve a air Ventura nomad 2 absolute quality fills up to 300 bar fills any air gun / rifle
    not for filling dive tanks / bottles tho

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    I'm more than happy with my NOMAD 2, it's only a matter of minutes to top up a rifle so I'm not too bothered about topping up cylinders. In fact I'll probably sell my cylinders once lock down restrictions have been eased.

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    I've had my Hills pump since last July, fills my guns fine including a 480cc carbon bottle on the FX Royale. I fitted an extra inline filter more as a belt & braces guard against moisture than a necessity. I would say it is not suitable for bottle filling though, despite the claims. It gets hot, cuts out & restarts over the fill around every 20bar from 200bar to 300bar on a 3 litre bottle. Now this is how it's meant to operate but it just feels like it's trying too hard & gets too hot in the process to me. Hence me only filling direct to guns with it now.

    John
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    Quote Originally Posted by JLB View Post
    I've had my Hills pump since last July, fills my guns fine including a 480cc carbon bottle on the FX Royale. I fitted an extra inline filter more as a belt & braces guard against moisture than a necessity. I would say it is not suitable for bottle filling though, despite the claims. It gets hot, cuts out & restarts over the fill around every 20bar from 200bar to 300bar on a 3 litre bottle. Now this is how it's meant to operate but it just feels like it's trying too hard & gets too hot in the process to me. Hence me only filling direct to guns with it now.

    John
    That could be as simple as it being in a location with insufficient air flow around it.
    It might just need a window/garage door open or a table fan to get a flow of air across it, as does anything air cooled.

    Your extra filter will also be causing a restriction in the output flow which the pump will have to work harder to overcome,
    Harder work = more heat.

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    Very interesting about the cutout / restart on filling a 3 litre dive bottle. Out of interest does it usually fill the rifle bottle from 200 to 300bar in one shot (ie without cutting out)? The fact that there is a purposeful cutout / restart cycle suggests that it is not really damaging the pump (but I can see this being a bit stressful given the cost).


    Quote Originally Posted by JLB View Post
    I've had my Hills pump since last July, fills my guns fine including a 480cc carbon bottle on the FX Royale. I fitted an extra inline filter more as a belt & braces guard against moisture than a necessity. I would say it is not suitable for bottle filling though, despite the claims. It gets hot, cuts out & restarts over the fill around every 20bar from 200bar to 300bar on a 3 litre bottle. Now this is how it's meant to operate but it just feels like it's trying too hard & gets too hot in the process to me. Hence me only filling direct to guns with it now.

    John

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    The Hills has a cooling fan built in which forces air over the compression chamber when you turn it on. It won't fill a 3 litre bottle from 200-300bar without the stop start cycle. I haven't experimented with extra fans or the like as I just fill straight to gun now which it has no problem at all with.

    John
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    Don't know what the various manufacturers claim for their products, but maybe it needs to be accepted that the mini compressors are only intended/suitable for filling gun cylinders, rather than larger bottles?
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