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    Just been shooting my FAC Pro Elite...

    ...after an enforced 6 year separation...

    What a gun. Even though it's doing about 20 FP, it's a lot calmer than a factory HW95 at 11 FP. Easy to cock, great trigger, and awesomely accurate.

    I know it's too big for a 12 Fp gun, and I know that fac springers don't really make much sense in the UK, but it's still a great piece of engineering. I was going to convert it to an HW80 seal (shortening the stroke 1/4" as a bonus), and lighten the piston a bit, but I'm not sure there's much to be gained... will probably just wait for the seal to wear out.

    It was great to pick it up after such a long break, and with barely a couple of clicks of the scope turrets, be hitting everything I aimed at...
    Always looking for any cheap, interesting, knackered "project" guns. Thanks, JB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shed tuner View Post
    ...after an enforced 6 year separation...

    What a gun. Even though it's doing about 20 FP, it's a lot calmer than a factory HW95 at 11 FP. Easy to cock, great trigger, and awesomely accurate.

    I know it's too big for a 12 Fp gun, and I know that fac springers don't really make much sense in the UK, but it's still a great piece of engineering. I was going to convert it to an HW80 seal (shortening the stroke 1/4" as a bonus), and lighten the piston a bit, but I'm not sure there's much to be gained... will probably just wait for the seal to wear out.

    It was great to pick it up after such a long break, and with barely a couple of clicks of the scope turrets, be hitting everything I aimed at...
    Hi Jon
    The Pro/elite as always been my favourite airgun.
    I have not had the opportunity to shoot one in FAC.
    My 2 have been optimized for 12fb so have the reduced cylinder conversion by V-mach.
    I still think nothing shoots as nice as a well sorted Pro/elite.
    Les..

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    its strange i find after a while shooting a pcp,it takes me a couple of shots to actually hit anything with a springer,lol

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    Would love to get my hands on one of these, very jealous

    Maybe one day.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by GB2017 View Post
    Would love to get my hands on one of these, very jealous

    Maybe one day.....
    I know how you feel
    20 years ago I had a choice of a PE or a 80 they was selling PE's off cheap at the time and I went for the 80

    I was looking at a pic of the PE breech and was wondering if the TP is short as it looks like it is.




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    Pro Elite

    I must say the 25mm vmach conversion on a pro elite turns a good rifle in to a wonderful rifle. Hate to say but I think they shoot better than a 25mm 80. Mach 1.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by GB2017 View Post
    Would love to get my hands on one of these, very jealous

    Maybe one day.....
    I have just taken a deposit on my pro elite I had in the swaps section. 9.9/10 condition, boxed, all paperwork manuals, bought new in I'll health, not shot and given through inheritance. Thought I might have had more interest in all honesty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyovy View Post
    I have just taken a deposit on my pro elite I had in the swaps section. 9.9/10 condition, boxed, all paperwork manuals, bought new in I'll health, not shot and given through inheritance. Thought I might have had more interest in all honesty.
    Dont often look in swaps tbh as i want to keep all of my guns if it had been in sales well completely another thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyovy View Post
    I have just taken a deposit on my pro elite I had in the swaps section. 9.9/10 condition, boxed, all paperwork manuals, bought new in I'll health, not shot and given through inheritance. Thought I might have had more interest in all honesty.
    Probably would have if you put in Sales section...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shed tuner View Post
    ...after an enforced 6 year separation...

    What a gun. Even though it's doing about 20 FP, it's a lot calmer than a factory HW95 at 11 FP. Easy to cock, great trigger, and awesomely accurate.

    I know it's too big for a 12 Fp gun, and I know that fac springers don't really make much sense in the UK, but it's still a great piece of engineering. I was going to convert it to an HW80 seal (shortening the stroke 1/4" as a bonus), and lighten the piston a bit, but I'm not sure there's much to be gained... will probably just wait for the seal to wear out.

    It was great to pick it up after such a long break, and with barely a couple of clicks of the scope turrets, be hitting everything I aimed at...
    Always lovely to be acquainted after such a long, enforced break, Jon.

    And great to hear you still love it to bits.

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    very nice guns

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    Had one in both calibers. They were 22 ft. lbs. in .22 and 20 ft. lbs. in .177. I sold them to fund TX200's when I got into FT heavy. I had $600 in the 2, both brand new, and I sold them for $1250. One had no stock and was bought as action only by a stock maker. He thought he was getting a .22, but it was the .177. I had a stock, so $200 was what I paid. I also had an early Beeman R1(HW80) at the time. The HW does not compare and feels flimsy and cheap next to the PE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FPoole View Post
    Had one in both calibers. They were 22 ft. lbs. in .22 and 20 ft. lbs. in .177. I sold them to fund TX200's when I got into FT heavy. I had $600 in the 2, both brand new, and I sold them for $1250. One had no stock and was bought as action only by a stock maker. He thought he was getting a .22, but it was the .177. I had a stock, so $200 was what I paid. I also had an early Beeman R1(HW80) at the time. The HW does not compare and feels flimsy and cheap next to the PE.
    I totally agree with your comparison with the 80. The ProElite feels substantial and beautifully engineered, especially when closing the barrel ....however that shows in its weigh.
    Mine was rebuilt By the late Steve Pope (RIP) with a reduced cylinder of 25mm with a CZ Barrel in .177 flavour. It also has a .22 Barrel with matching spring to allow it to stay below 12fpe when the caliber is changed.
    Very Accurate and a pleasure to shoot and own.

    Cheers Steve

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    WHY was such a nice break barrel like the ProElite discontinued and sold of cheap in such a short time after two years development ?

    I have not heard a satisfying answer, its a real mystery as the 80 is such a success

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    Quote Originally Posted by FPoole View Post
    I also had an early Beeman R1(HW80) at the time. The HW does not compare and feels flimsy and cheap next to the PE.
    LOL the HW80 Flimsy, I can agree that the AA bluing looks more expansive if if that is what you mean by cheap but just trying think where the 80 is flimsy next to the PE, it cant be the end block as that would be more robust if abused by over tightening a mount, that only leaves the breech area and I'm not sure how anyone could call that flimsy
    A nice custom 80 would compare with a PE but the PE already looks like a custom job and it's the only gun I still won't but only if I can find one that has not been messed with

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