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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Dunkley View Post
    Cant see why the interest. I love them but cant see why the sudden interest I know you can keep an antique muzzle loading shotgun off licence but does that apply to muzzle loading rifles too? Be a good thing if it causes more retailers to stock black powder. I have a 60 mile drive each way to get mine.
    Yup as long as it is an antique and of obsolete caliber. I do not have an FAC but I do have a couple of Martini Henry rifles, a pinfire shotgun, French Gras cadet and a Werndl rifle. I also used to own a Snider, Mannlicher 1886, couple of pinfire revolvers and other muzzle loading shotguns ect. Just ordered a Schmitt Rubin 1889 as well. All of them classed as obsolete and antique. If I wished to shoot them then of course I would need to get a licence.

    As for the sudden interest, one word. Boredom. That is why gun prices have gone up. Same reason as to why dog prices have gone up to.

    Sad thing is, in a way, the prices may not go back to pre lockdown levels. Good for seller, but bad for poor buyers like me....

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    always fancied a 11mm pinfire revolver but most of them look ugly....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huttles94 View Post
    Yup as long as it is an antique and of obsolete caliber. I do not have an FAC but I do have a couple of Martini Henry rifles, a pinfire shotgun, French Gras cadet and a Werndl rifle. I also used to own a Snider, Mannlicher 1886, couple of pinfire revolvers and other muzzle loading shotguns ect. Just ordered a Schmitt Rubin 1889 as well. All of them classed as obsolete and antique. If I wished to shoot them then of course I would need to get a licence.

    As for the sudden interest, one word. Boredom. That is why gun prices have gone up. Same reason as to why dog prices have gone up to.

    Sad thing is, in a way, the prices may not go back to pre lockdown levels. Good for seller, but bad for poor buyers like me....
    Do not all have to be of obsolete calibre muzzle loaders before 1939 are exempt.
    When I die don't let my wife sell my guns for what she thinks I gave for them!!!

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    yes, as an example an Indian copy of a muzzle loader made 10 years ago has to go on a licence.
    The originally made one would not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Dunkley View Post
    Do not all have to be of obsolete calibre muzzle loaders before 1939 are exempt.
    Muzzle loaders themselves are classed as obsolete (regardless of what size projectile they use). Only ones you need a licence for are the reproductions made after 1939 such as the Parker hale or Italian made ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huttles94 View Post
    Muzzle loaders themselves are classed as obsolete (regardless of what size projectile they use). Only ones you need a licence for are the reproductions made after 1939 such as the Parker hale or Italian made ones.

    Or if you intend to shoot them!
    When I die don't let my wife sell my guns for what she thinks I gave for them!!!

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    this is my type 2 1842 eic musket......only 5000 made and you can just make out the lion on the lock plate as now dons a muslim cresent moon symbol i believe....its wrapped up and stored away at min so this is just from memory.
    it was discussed on another forum.
    barrel by breasley and an early lock too.....

    https://i.postimg.cc/B6gL3GXv/type-2-fusil.jpg

    a bit of info on it https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/...199068#p199068
    Last edited by loiner1965; 10-02-2021 at 11:10 AM.

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    I understand the regulations with regard to antique and modern firearms, and the requirement for antiques being subject to a FAC if being used, also the requirement of a Black powder licence here in the UK, but am interested to know what the regulations are in respect of Percussion Caps. Are they legal to own? I see cased pistols in auction rooms with the small cap tins still filled with caps. should they be discretely disposed of, if found with a purchased item?
    Last edited by mel h; 10-02-2021 at 04:40 PM.

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    Antique

    Antique pre 1939 muzzle loading shotguns can be held off licence as long as you are not going to shoot them. Owning black powder or percussion caps for any reason indicates that you are. If you wish to shoot them they they are put on your SGC not FAC The percussion caps are perfectly legal to own and can be bought on a SGC but cant be posted.
    Hope this helps.
    I am not really sure about antique muzzle loading rifles.
    When I die don't let my wife sell my guns for what she thinks I gave for them!!!

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