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    Webley oil can

    Hi guys, there is a "1920s" Webley oil can on , please have a look then can I have your thoughts and comments?
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    Could be very wrong, but on that style spout normally in centre, can looks more aged that label..

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    Personally , I would wait for Troubledshooter to reply to this.


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    If we are talking about Item number:184672087137, it is entirely wrong with a correct style label attached to a much later and wrongly styled reproduction tin.

    Item no 184672087137



    This is what a good reproduction Webley oil can of the period should look like.



    This is what a genuine Webley oil can of the period should look like.



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    Last edited by Abasmajor; 20-02-2021 at 06:33 PM.

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    Red face

    Looks like a repro label, sized to fit one of those Singer sewing machine oil tins from the 1950's/60' ?

    On the other hand it could be a one-off prototype 'can made for Webley by Singer, and as such worth a fortune? Tricky one!

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    So prior to the invention of the Valvespout oiler in the early 1930s, was Webley oil supplied in bottles, or in tins as well?

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    ....and his other items consists of something he advertises as 'not a reprint' and ''Ferrari dealers widow stickers,more available on request''.yea its a copy alright. still better than nothing i suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slug-gun View Post
    Looks like a repro label, sized to fit one of those Singer sewing machine oil tins from the 1950's/60' ?

    On the other hand it could be a one-off prototype 'can made for Webley by Singer, and as such worth a fortune? Tricky one!
    I think your suggestion of it being a re-labelled 'Singer' oil can could well be correct, Chris, as I have a similar 'Singer' can on the shelf.

    As for it possibly being a one off prototype, I very much doubt that as the 'Webley' on the top is wrong, being curved on the top edge of the logo instead of the bottom edge.
    It's a pity there is no rear view.

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    Webley did supply a non valvespout oil can prior to the introduction of the latter but that was of a different shape and I have only ever seen one in a private collection. Initially the company recommended oil bottles of Neatsfoot oil, which were presumably unbranded or generally available commercial Neatsfoot oil.

    There is no provenance to suggest the oil can under discussion is a genuine Webley item, so I'd suggest caution if anyone is thinking of bidding. Personally, I shan't be bidding on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josie & John View Post
    Webley did supply a non valvespout oil can prior to the introduction of the latter but that was of a different shape and I have only ever seen one in a private collection. Initially the company recommended oil bottles of Neatsfoot oil, which were presumably unbranded or generally available commercial Neatsfoot oil.

    Wasn't Webley No.1 oil the neatsfoot type? That tin is marked as No.2 which I believe was SAE 30 motor oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebleyWombler View Post
    Wasn't Webley No.1 oil the neatsfoot type? That tin is marked as No.2 which I believe was SAE 30 motor oil.
    I'm not sure if No 1 was Neatsfoot or light machine oil but yes No 2 was SAE30 motor oil as it was intended to lubricate metal piston rings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troubledshooter View Post
    I think your suggestion of it being a re-labelled 'Singer' oil can could well be correct, Chris, as I have a similar 'Singer' can on the shelf.

    As for it possibly being a one off prototype, I very much doubt that as the 'Webley' on the top is wrong, being curved on the top edge of the logo instead of the bottom edge.
    It's a pity there is no rear view.
    I believe the full stop after the W&S should not be there either.. Still, five out of ten for effort and twelve lace- holes for trying it on !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josie & John View Post
    Webley did supply a non valvespout oil can prior to the introduction of the latter but that was of a different shape and I have only ever seen one in a private collection. Initially the company recommended oil bottles of Neatsfoot oil, which were presumably unbranded or generally available commercial Neatsfoot oil.

    There is no provenance to suggest the oil can under discussion is a genuine Webley item, so I'd suggest caution if anyone is thinking of bidding. Personally, I shan't be bidding on this one.

    John M
    This is the extremely rare oil can pictured in an early Webley catalogue that John is referring to which briefly preceded the Valvespout can.



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    Quote Originally Posted by slug-gun View Post

    Looks like a repro label, sized to fit one of those Singer sewing machine oil tins from the 1950's/60' ?
    Yup, same tin as on the bay 233897473100 . There are quite a few examples of that exact tin listed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troubledshooter View Post
    I think your suggestion of it being a re-labelled 'Singer' oil can could well be correct, Chris, as I have a similar 'Singer' can on the shelf.

    As for it possibly being a one off prototype, I very much doubt that as the 'Webley' on the top is wrong, being curved on the top edge of the logo instead of the bottom edge.
    It's a pity there is no rear view.
    Does show both sides of the can, A tin that size though would last me donkeys years,,

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