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    bsa standard light

    hi i have just aquired a bsa standard light .177 good condition the only number is li5963 can anybody give me rough price and age thanks kevinj

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin j View Post
    hi i have just aquired a bsa standard light .177 good condition the only number is li5963 can anybody give me rough price and age thanks kevinj
    From a PDF I have of Knibbs book on B.S.A and Lincoln Jeffries
    # L15963
    Serial Numbers - 15730-16229
    Period of Manufacture - May - July 1907
    Period of Despatch - May 1907 - Oct. 1908
    Notes - Sixth batch BSA Standard & Light pattern. Improved Model 'B'.

    Nice piece Kevin. The above is dependent on whether it is single or two screw trigger block?
    Do you have any images showing its condition; any information ?
    Last edited by slow_runner; 05-03-2021 at 07:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slow_runner View Post
    From a PDF I have of Knibbs book on B.S.A and Lincoln Jeffries
    # L15963
    Serial Numbers - 15730-16229
    Period of Manufacture - May - July 1907
    Period of Despatch - May 1907 - Oct. 1908
    Notes - Sixth batch BSA Standard & Light pattern. Improved Model 'B'.

    Nice piece Kevin. The above is dependent on whether it is single or two screw trigger block?
    Do you have any images showing its condition; any information ?
    Could it be possibly a second series one as well? (1919-39) as they started the serials again (they were also L prefix) , you really need the Hillers as well as the Knibbs to get the full picture as Hillers does both periods.

    If the O.P. describes the gun It would help, ie. style of cocking lever etc. as this would be more helpful rather than just a number.

    It could also be a 1920 L model in this case.

    HTH,

    ATB, Ed

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    You are right there Ed and will know more than I .
    Kevin will need to confirm that serial number and provide more of a description, images would assist greatly

    The earliest L pattern I have is a 1912 Hazard bought as parts from a very good mate down South. The other is that rough stocked project from 1922 - # L147XX that I bought from Declan.
    With generosity from my friend I have a a two piece stock for that 1922 now. Some previous owner had cut two inches off (for a son??) and retained the cut off section. It can be seen that an attempt has been made to join the two parts with large nails- rough indeed.
    Both these L patterns shoot well.
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    Does the cocking lever under the barrel, have a bayonet end, or does it have a push button on the end ? Bayonet lever would be the earlier gun. End button would be 1919/1920 period.


    Lakey

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    Never seen a pre WW1 BSA with a letter prefix to the serial number unless it has an 'S' at the start to denote some with the double latched trigger and those models usually have patent numbers above the serial number

    An 'L' series gum would be made somewhere between 1919 and 1935 ( bear in mind that no exact figures exist and the published series are only an aproximate guide)

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    thank you all for the reply's about the BSA standard light here are some photos i hope will give you more of a clue
    [IMG]2021036_153031[/IMG]
    [IMG]20210306_153040[/IMG]
    [IMG]20210603_153048[/IMG]
    [IMG]20210306_153053[/IMG]
    [IMG]20210306_153102[/IMG]
    [IMG]20210306_153901[/IMG]
    [IMG]20210306_153000[/IMG]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakey View Post
    Does the cocking lever under the barrel, have a bayonet end, or does it have a push button on the end ? Bayonet lever would be the earlier gun. End button would be 1919/1920 period.


    Lakey
    It's gone very quiet .
    Maybe it's a secret .

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    hi the cocking lever has a button push and on the end of the butt there is a removable plate to give access for room i think for a cleaning kit

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    If it has a letter prefix then it will be made after 1919 (Ok not 100% true since some pre WW1 rifles had the S prefix (these were the ill fated double sear models made between 1912 and 1914 I believe) but the L/C/CS/A/S (The ones without the double sear) ect are all post 1919.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin j View Post
    hi the cocking lever has a button push and on the end of the butt there is a removable plate to give access for room i think for a cleaning kit
    Hi, That sounds like a 1920's era gun then, the butt trap on these is a wooden oval cover secured by two small screws with a convex oval spring under it to help release, the purpose is to allow access to the stock retaining bolt, If you shine a light you will see a slotted head down the 'ole

    Gun below is a 1919-39 era one (they did change a bit but this is showing all the general shapes of the bits etc.)



    If it has a full size metal cover to the butt then it is an earlier stock, most parts interchange between eras so can get confusing when stuff is replaced

    Also used for hiding messages, or putting weights in etc. etc., but not really designed to be taken on and off as can break if levered out without care.

    ATB, Ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin j View Post
    thank you all for the reply's about the BSA standard light here are some photos i hope will give you more of a clue
    [IMG]2021036_153031[/IMG]
    [IMG]20210306_153040[/IMG]
    [IMG]20210603_153048[/IMG]
    [IMG]20210306_153053[/IMG]
    [IMG]20210306_153102[/IMG]
    [IMG]20210306_153901[/IMG]
    [IMG]20210306_153000[/IMG]
    Photos not working for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin j View Post
    thank you all for the reply's about the BSA standard light here are some photos i hope will give you more of a clue.[IMG]20210306_153000[/IMG]

    Use this Kevin. https://postimages.org/
    Select ' Thumbnail for forums:' copy and paste on your post

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