HW95 and 80

[Errol]

I have had many rifles. Majority springers.
Several 95's but never an 80.
The 95 is suited to 12ft/lb. The 80 for higher power. Is the 80 at a disadvantage at legal limits?
Atb Errol

[phil384]

I have had many rifles. Majority springers.
Several 95's but never an 80.
The 95 is suited to 12ft/lb. The 80 for higher power. Is the 80 at a disadvantage at legal limits?
Atb Errol

In my experience, having owned both, the 80 is milder on recoil and less "twangy" so I guess it's like a car gently purring away rather than revving it's nuts off for the same performance

[Drew451]

I have always preferred the 80 to the 95, by some margin. I have no issues with the HW80's shot cycle at sub 12 and consider accuracy to be excellent.
I would also choose an HW35 over the 95.

[Errol]

Isn't the 35 lower power!!!

[Drew451]

Isn't the 35 lower power!!!

The 35 doesnt have the same power potential but later examples can give around 11 fpe in .22 no problem.
The one I have kept is a 1977 35e which gives a very sweet 9.5 in .177, which is fine for my plinking needs.

[jonnyone]

I shot a HW80 for many years and have great respect for it. If it wasn't so I wouldn't still have it after these past 37 years. And some more beside.
I cannot get the same contentment with either 85s that I have though these too are well made guns.
At risk of raking over some ashes there was a thread not that long back on the 95 and it's quirky firing cycle. You may wish to have a look for that for further background info.
For my money I prefer the Diana 34 which is a similar sized gun but to my mind at least has better manners.
Dave

[Geezer]

It’s weird.

The 80 is made for 18-20 ft-lbs, so should be poor at 11. But it usually isn’t.

The 85/95 is made for 14-16 ft-lbs, so should be good at 11. But it usually isn’t. Or at least isn’t as good as it ought to be.

We had a 23-page (!) thread about this kind of thing a few weeks ago:

http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....highlight=HW95

[madcarlos]

The 35 doesnt have the same power potential but later examples can give around 11 fpe in .22 no problem.
The one I have kept is a 1977 35e which gives a very sweet 9.5 in .177, which is fine for my plinking needs.

I have an early 80s hw35e and I had to reduce that a little on the power, Not a massive amount but then lack of preload on the spring I think these could happily shoot higher, Maybe the length of the barrel helps a little,

[rapidresponse1]

i loved my 80 and still regret selling it fine gun

[elewis411]

I have had many rifles. Majority springers.
Several 95's but never an 80.
The 95 is suited to 12ft/lb. The 80 for higher power. Is the 80 at a disadvantage at legal limits?
Atb Errol

Hw80 for me which is my favourite ever air rifle and I must have owned around 20 examples over the years, only ever owned 1 Hw95 and I wasn’t fussed to be honest, would love another Hw80 someday but that would depend on getting my shoulder sorted out...

[madcarlos]

Hw80 for me which is my favourite ever air rifle and I must have owned around 20 examples over the years, only ever owned 1 Hw95 and I wasn’t fussed to be honest, would love another Hw80 someday but that would depend on getting my shoulder sorted out...

Even though I dont use springers much I have 3x mk1 hw80 and even thinking of adding a nice mk2, For me the 77 and 80 changed air guns back in the early 80s,

[elewis411]

Even though I dont use springers much I have 3x mk1 hw80 and even thinking of adding a nice mk2, For me the 77 and 80 changed air guns back in the early 80s,

That’s good news, so when I need a mk1 80 I know who to get in touch with then😮...

[StellaArtois Sr]

I still have 2 HW80s in .177 and .22 and have been reducing my .22 collection as I prefer to use .177.

I have had no problems with my HW95's as both flavours in that rifle shoot beautifully. I did get rid of my .20 as it just didn't do anything for me.

I have never really gelled with my .177 HW80. I have read that a lots of people prefer the .22 to shoot.
I plan on doing some work on both of them once the range eventually opens again to see if I can make mine work, to give me the buzz of shooting them like I have with my others.

I often hear people say they regret getting rid off them, they are their favourite rifles, and I keep thinking I am seriously
missing something here, as they certainly are not mine.

I was thinking of putting Vortek kits in both, but then I thought £200 is a lot to spend then find out I still don't like them.

What recommendations can you guys give me that will make me enjoy using them without spending a fortune. I think I have a TbT short stroke in the .177.

Ade

[TonyL]

Ade, look up wonkydonky's excellent thread on his short stroking story of the '80, entitled, "Taming the HW80 my way", I think.

A classic, must read thread. Don't sell the 80. Have a read of this, take what you can from it, perform and enjoy. I've tried a few stroked 80s and they're transformed and lovely. Wonky's was absolutely divine