hw 90 gas ram pros cons ?

[WILBA]

The TB was the Theoben-offered (TB, see) special with a walnut custom stock, carbine barrel and TB silencer.

There was also a similar but different “Euro Custom”, which I think was again a Theoben-supplied model.

I once knew the differences between the two, but have forgotten. Anyway, they are definitely nicer than the standard HW90, and quite rare.

The euro custom have a high grade walnut stock which is either right or lefthanded. The Tb like i have has a ambidextrous stock. The euro custom stock is beautiful.

[Geezer]

The euro custom have a high grade walnut stock which is either right or lefthanded. The Tb like i have has a ambidextrous stock. The euro custom stock is beautiful.

Thanks. I think they also may differ slightly (beyond LH/RH vs ambi) in perhaps the profile of the fore-end, and/or the chequering? But I may be hallucinating that.

Anyway, they are both rare and rather lovely.

[CannonFodder]

I owned a Theoben Evolution and a BSA Lightning with a Theoben gas strut I fitted, have also shot a HW90 a few times.

I have found gas rams very different to shoot compared to springers.

They have a very quick action, which can be described as 'snappy'.

Once you get used to it though, it's fine.

[evert]

They have a very quick action, which can be described as 'snappy'.

Once you get used to it though, it's fine.

I tried to get used to my .177 Evolution at several times over many years.
The snappy recoil could be acceptabe if the gun didnt throw shots way off target.
Traded it recently for a new old stock HW85

[WILBA]

Thanks. I think they also may differ slightly (beyond LH/RH vs ambi) in perhaps the profile of the fore-end, and/or the chequering? But I may be hallucinating that.

Anyway, they are both rare and rather lovely.

Yes the stock profile is totally different on the euro. Looks like the cheekpiece is higher also. The stock looks stunning on the euro custom compared to my tb

[alexall]

Yikes, choosing a 95 over a 90. It's like jumping out the frying pan into the fire.

The 90 is in a class of it's own. I like them a lot for they are so easy to shoot well. Opinion, a fast shot cycle can be worded to be snappy and the what you cannot do to one is then described as boring. I have had one for years and loving the no maintenance. If you are a fettler and wants to tweak it every other weekend, then this really is a boring gun. You really leave it alone. The trigger is perfect fine and way better than the Theobens (shameful!!). All in all, the hw90 of old is worthy to have.

Some will insist on the joy of springers. It can have more character and will definitely fill hours upon hours of tinkering for being a grown up Meccano set. Machine parts and tweak to your heart content and if you don't like something or you feel inadequate, spend some more money on alternative kits and innards. I am in the camp of 'if it's not broken, don't fix it', but I know some insist on blue printing their springer to what they believe to the best.

I like my rammers and I currently have 2xhw90 and 5xTheobens. I rate the hw90's over the Theobens in overall handling. One hw90 is in .20 and the other in .25cal. Both shoots wonderfully and without fuss. Clean shooter and simple.

I also have 5xhw95's. Boy, each being very trying. Tried to set them up in different ways with various kits and they are still hold sensitive. I have now managed to get them all shooting about right but you are constantly reminded that you need to be on top form to eek out a string of one holers. The 95 will catch you out. At first, you may find the challenge of a 95 fun until it catches you out.

[maximus]

Yikes, choosing a 95 over a 90. It's like jumping out the frying pan into the fire.

The 90 is in a class of it's own. I like them a lot for they are so easy to shoot well. Opinion, a fast shot cycle can be worded to be snappy and the what you cannot do to one is then described as boring. I have had one for years and loving the no maintenance. If you are a fettler and wants to tweak it every other weekend, then this really is a boring gun. You really leave it alone. The trigger is perfect fine and way better than the Theobens (shameful!!). All in all, the hw90 of old is worthy to have.

Some will insist on the joy of springers. It can have more character and will definitely fill hours upon hours of tinkering for being a grown up Meccano set. Machine parts and tweak to your heart content and if you don't like something or you feel inadequate, spend some more money on alternative kits and innards. I am in the camp of 'if it's not broken, don't fix it', but I know some insist on blue printing their springer to what they believe to the best.

I like my rammers and I currently have 2xhw90 and 5xTheobens. I rate the hw90's over the Theobens in overall handling. One hw90 is in .20 and the other in .25cal. Both shoots wonderfully and without fuss. Clean shooter and simple.

I also have 5xhw95's. Boy, each being very trying. Tried to set them up in different ways with various kits and they are still hold sensitive. I have now managed to get them all shooting about right but you are constantly reminded that you need to be on top form to eek out a string of one holers. The 95 will catch you out. At first, you may find the challenge of a 95 fun until it catches you out.

Agree with this,